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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 June 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Bob Doris

Sheghley Ogilvie was nodding her head vociferously at that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Bob Doris

Minister, it was good to see the engagement over the summer. In previous questioning, I mentioned other groups that we could not necessarily place a statutory duty on but that would be key partners in relation to the ask and act duty—in particular, the Department for Work and Pensions and the Home Office. I also mentioned general practitioners, although there might be challenges in that regard for different reasons. Have you met any of those three key organisations during the summer? If not, is it your intention to do so?

I have a second, follow-up question. We might not be able to compel the DWP to have an ask and act duty, for example, but we can see clearly why, given its role in benefits, it might be a central organisation. Could we still write it into legislation by, for example, placing a requirement on the Scottish Government to reach out to it for a formal concordat or protocol, or ask it to volunteer to be part of the ask and act duty? That would be a powerful thing to do, and I would quite like that to be in the bill or in secondary legislation. The fact that we cannot compel the DWP to do anything does not mean that we should not acknowledge in legislation its key role.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Bob Doris

That is helpful, Ms MacKean. I am sorry for cutting across you, but I am conscious of the time. We want to keep questions moving.

Minister, would you be minded to include in the bill a duty on the Government to continue to build those relationships? We cannot put a duty on the DWP, although I am glad that there is good work in practice, but we could put a duty on our Government to continue to reach out in such a way.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Bob Doris

Minister, that might be the advice that you are getting at the moment, but I am thinking about the legislation saying that the Scottish Government must engage in that way.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Bob Doris

Mr Westwater, you can squeeze in your other reply, if you wish, at this point.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Bob Doris

That is really helpful.

Ms Latto, the mood music that we were getting at our away day with the third sector was very much, “Yes, we’d like more money, but please free us up to do better with the funds that we’ve actually got”.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Bob Doris

It looks like there is broad agreement across the panel on that point.

Mr Bruce and Ms Ogilvie, if you have something specific to say that we have not heard already, please come in and say it briefly. Otherwise, I intend to leave my line of questioning there, but I assume that there is broad agreement among the witnesses.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Bob Doris

If anyone else wants to respond on that question—incredibly briefly, because I have another line of questioning—feel free to come in, but you do not have to.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Bob Doris

That really helps, because that is an acknowledgement that the lack of three-year spending reviews is a barrier to multiyear funding settlements for the third sector.

Mr Westwater, hold on to your thought, because I will ask my next question and, if you can squeeze your comment in during your answer to that, please do.

This question is not about the amount of funds that the third sector gets or whether there is multiyear funding. Irrespective of the funds that the third sector gets, we are hearing that the balance between core funds, restricted funds and project-only funds and a real lack of flexibility are putting at risk the sustainability of some third sector organisations and that we need to do better on that. Do you have any comments or reflections on what those barriers are? For example, do they include the lack of flexibility and not being able to vire some money over to core funds in order to do something innovative? I see you nodding your head, Mr Frew, so I will start with you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 3 September 2024

Bob Doris

I think that I have got certainty, because trading standards are content at the moment, but my question is inspired by the fact that there are a lot of technical regulations, and we have a lot of expertise in the committee clerking team and the Scottish Parliament information centre team to identify areas where the legislation can potentially be improved.

I will move on. Another thing that we have learned on the committee is what the WEEE regulations are. For anyone who is watching the meeting, I should say that they are the waste electrical and electronic equipment regulations. I also note that a UK-wide vaping product duty will be implemented in 2026. I would like to know about the interaction between the WEEE regulations and other potential fiscal measures in relation to these matters. Take-back schemes are still required in relation to vapes and vaping products, but I understand that compliance with them has been relatively low.

That is the general context. Has the Government thought about the interaction between the WEEE regulations, the forthcoming vaping products duty in 2026 and what we hope to move to legislate on this morning?