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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 8 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

I think that Mr Wood was nodding his head at that, which should be captured on the record.

I am nearly finished with this section, but I just want to mop up the witnesses’ different views. I think that we have to reflect very carefully on what is quite a complex area in the legislation. Mr Oates said that agricultural value only should be compensated for in relation to resumption rights. I think that Mr Wood was nodding his head at that—[Interruption.] Oh, right, he was not. In that case, I will bring in Mr Wood, and if there are any other views, it would be helpful to hear them

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

That clarity was helpful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

Could the bill be a vehicle for that? I suppose that it could be. However, there are tenants out there who have rights that date back to the 2003 act, and 10 years on from now, in 2034, there could be tenants out there who will have been farming land for 30 years. Another committee in 10 years’ time might think that they should have the protection of full resumption rights. Do you have any reflections on that, Hamish?

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

I want to look at the issue of resumption, which, according to my notes, is one of the bill’s more contested aspects. We will find out in this morning’s evidence taking.

Mr Hall, I think that I saw that you were the national president of the Central Association of Agricultural Valuers, which thought that it was about time that compensation rights under resumption were reviewed. Perhaps, Mr Hall, you could say a little more about whether it is right in principle to review some of that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

I will be incredibly brief, convener, because I was not intending to ask any questions this morning—I am just here to listen. However, I need to know more about your role as a regulator in general.

In many of your answers, you have effectively said, “These are the operational matters, and here is the fact of the matter in terms of operational matters”, and you have not strayed into policy matters. The deputy convener had quite an extensive exchange with you, and I think that members were trying to tease out how your operational experience informs Government as to how it might change its policy as a consequence of that. Members were trying to bring out some of that contrast, but I do not think that we have ever seen such a passive position from a regulator at committee.

I went and looked at the consultation responses in relation to the changed call-in procedures. A majority were in favour of the change, and a substantial minority were not in favour, so there was a finely balanced decision for Government to make. SEPA must surely have had a role in some of that, but I do not think that we are any the wiser as to what SEPA’s role was in relation to any of that.

More generally, in relation to these regulations, what has SEPA’s role been? After listening to this evidence session, I am completely unclear.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

That would genuinely be helpful.

Mr Oates, you have been very patient. Do you have any comments or reflections on all of the above?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

And you are going to write to the committee with your thoughts on that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

Does that need to be clear on the face of the bill?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

Your view would be that if both parties could enter into a negotiation in good faith without having to have recourse to the tenant farming commissioner, that would be perfectly acceptable, but that it is a fall-back position.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2024

Bob Doris

That is helpful.