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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Bob Doris

We have heard quite a lot about making sure that we can get the hydrogen to where it needs to be and where it has to be used, and we heard a little bit from Lewis Elder about project union. According to my notes, that is the plan for 1,500 miles of hydrogen transmission network by the early 2030s. However, Lewis talked about limitations in the existing network as well as barriers to getting on to it. How important is the development of that particular network? Given that it will not all happen at one time, what connections and locations should be prioritised as the network is developed to support hydrogen?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Bob Doris

You talk about joining all this up in a network and priority areas for developing, and you gave some welcome news for the next stage. Putting aside the timescale, the phasing and the prioritisation, is there anything that project union is not doing but should be doing?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Bob Doris

I have no further questions. For the record, I point out that Mr Ireland was agreeing with that as you were saying it, Tim.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Bob Doris

I am sure that another member will let you come back in later. It is one of those issues on which another witness seemed to give a converse view, so I was trying to work out where we are with it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Bob Doris

I feel like we are almost having a hydrogen economy version of “Yes Minister”, listening to all this. I am not an expert, and that is something that I need to get my head around and work out the best way forward, so I really appreciate that.

Mercedes Maroto-Valer, do you want to come in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Bob Doris

That is helpful, because—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Bob Doris

Tim, you said that, in a previous existence, you were involved with Acorn and you mentioned some of those issues. Do you want to comment on anything that you have heard so far?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Bob Doris

Good afternoon, everyone. You probably heard me put a similar question to the previous panel—you were coming in as Mr Lumsden and I were asking questions. It is about a national network of hydrogen pipes moving hydrogen around Scotland and the UK, and project union was mentioned. I asked the first panel about the hope that that will be in place by the mid-2030s but it will not all happen at the one time—it will be phased and prioritised for the benefit of Scotland, the Scottish economy and our net zero targets. How should that work be phased and prioritised in the Scottish context? It would be helpful to know that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Bob Doris

I do not see any other takers, so, without putting words in your mouth, I will just nudge you slightly on the connections and locations that should be prioritised as part of that project. I expect your clear answer to be, of course, the work around the Acorn project and the wider Grangemouth cluster, for the benefit of the Scottish economy. However, is there any other prioritisation in the Scottish context that you think should happen? You do not have to give an answer to that. It is just that we heard earlier on that, although it is hoped that we will do everything that is required to be done, the uncertainty about when it will happen, and the sequencing of how it will happen, is leading to some uncertainty for business investment. Investors want that certainty and to get back their investment; they want to know whether the structure will be there. Has that been your experience in talking with investors? Are there any other parts of Scotland where that network should be prioritised?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Grangemouth (Project Willow)

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Bob Doris

I will turn to Professor Haszeldine. Do you want to add to that? I was going to ask you a separate question, but any reflection on that is welcome.