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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Bob Doris

I agree with Maggie Chapman on all of that. The question is not whether we should have targeted strategies to support different groups but whether we should put in statute additional specific provisions for them in order to underpin those strategies. That is the debate that we are having. I will wait to hear what the minister says on that issue, but I thank Maggie Chapman for putting her concerns on the record.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Bob Doris

I will be uncommonly brief with my contribution. During that exchange, we lost a bit of the purpose of Mr Stewart’s amendments. It is crazy that, if we are trying to prevent homelessness, anyone would ever consider making a judgment call on how someone in their time of greatest need came to be threatened with homelessness. If our ambition is to sustain people in their tenancies, that seems crazy to me. The idea of taking intentionality and that judgment call out of the system is an absolute no-brainer. Quite frankly, history will show that we should have done that some time ago. That is at the heart of these amendments to the bill.

I suggest to Mr Balfour—he said how his party will vote—that we have a three-stage process to legislation in the Parliament. Knowing Mr Stewart well, I am sure that he would work with you if you support the amendments today.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Bob Doris

Is the member suggesting that, when local authorities carry out their due diligence in relation to their plans for addressing housing needs and investing in the social rented housing stock, they are not taking into account the general housing needs in the local authority area? My understanding is that local authorities are quite attentive to those issues, so I am trying to work out what amendment 1078 is trying to fix.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Bob Doris

I will finish this point and then I will take your intervention.

I suggest to Mr Balfour that we amend the bill today, then work with Mr Stewart and others ahead of stage 3 to refine the legislation where we think that it could be improved. That would keep us together on a cross-party basis, which would be really important and powerful.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 20 March 2025

Bob Doris

I do not have any other particular comments to make, other than to thank Mr Stewart for his intervention and to emphasise again that it would be really beneficial for us to hang together as a committee, due to the importance of Mr Stewart’s amendments. Mr Stewart eloquently put on the record why they are so important, so I will leave it there.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pensioner Poverty (Digital Exclusion)

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Bob Doris

I see a lot of nodding heads, but I am not sure who wants to come in.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Bob Doris

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the eighth meeting in 2025 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. We have received no apologies. Collette Stevenson and Marie McNair are joining us online. Because the convener is appearing online, she has asked that I step in and chair this morning’s meeting, just for practicality. I am happy to do so.

Under our first item of business, do members agree to take item 3 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pensioner Poverty (Digital Exclusion)

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pensioner Poverty (Digital Exclusion)

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Bob Doris

That was helpful. If, after this session, you think of other examples that you want to give us, just drop the clerking team a line. That would be very helpful.

I also note—I make this as a rhetorical point, just so that it is on the public record—that, in my experience, mobile phone contracts and TV and broadband packages appear to be designed so that it is easy to step up a package but incredibly difficult to step it down again, so people can be trapped into unhealthy and unaffordable packages. I see nodding heads from the witnesses. I wanted that to be captured in the Official Report, but I do not want to set up a whole line of conversation about it, because of the time constraints. I also point out that we will be asking about what your organisations and others do to assist people, so I must ask you to keep your powder dry on that stuff until I bring in other members to ask about it.

Members have a couple of brief supplementary questions.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pensioner Poverty (Digital Exclusion)

Meeting date: 13 March 2025

Bob Doris

I think that Liz Smith will be exploring that later, when we come on to theme 3.