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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 February 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Bob Doris

The Scottish Government has ultimately mirrored the UK policy—albeit perhaps reluctantly—in moving from universal provision to means testing. I acknowledge that there are no up-front barriers to people receiving the income, which is important. What are the advantages of devolving winter fuel payments—noting that we are mirroring what is happening elsewhere in the UK?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Bob Doris

I am just making sure that we tick all the boxes.

Motion agreed to.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Bob Doris

I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for coming this morning. We will have a brief suspension to allow for a change of officials.

09:18 Meeting suspended.  

09:19 On resuming—  

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Petition

Meeting date: 16 September 2025

Bob Doris

I am supportive of the comments that have been made, but I just put on the record that the Government has told us that its air quality strategy—cleaner air for Scotland 2—will expire in July 2026, and a planned review has already been bolted into the system, in which all of this will be considered. I commend the petitioner for drawing attention to the issue, but it is reasonable to point out that the Government was already on the ball in considering the matter.

It is also reasonable for us to go back to the Government and say that we, as a committee, will continue to watch the issue, and our successor committee, too, will continue to look at the issue and plot a pathway to higher air quality standards. After all, why would the Government and Parliament not wish to do that?

I fully take on board Kevin Stewart’s point that, sometimes, there can be technical barriers, difficulties and delays in getting to targets, so perhaps there should be a bit of nuance in our correspondence to the Government. However, based on the evidence that I have in front of me, the Government appears to be already on the ball in looking at these issues as part of its on-going and planned review.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Bob Doris

Agenda item 3 is the committee’s second evidence session on pre-budget scrutiny. I welcome our witnesses. In the room, we are joined by Chris Birt, associate director for Scotland, Joseph Rowntree Foundation; Stephen Sinclair, chair, Poverty and Inequality Commission; and Emma Jackson, head of social justice, Citizens Advice Scotland. Edel Harris OBE, chair of the independent review of adult disability payments, joins us online. Thank you all for the support that you will give us this morning with our budget scrutiny.

A significant amount of money has been invested in social security in Scotland, and the budget is dramatically increasing. However, that is happening in a controlled fashion, if you like, as a result of policy intentions. For example, there will be an additional £489 million for the Scottish child payment next year, and disability benefits payments will be £452 million above the block grant adjustment. There will also be an additional £123 million for carers allowance, £100 million for mitigating United Kingdom policies in relation to discretionary housing payments, and spend of £155 million on the forthcoming mitigation of the two-child benefit cap.

We can quickly see how that all stacks up to a huge amount more money than the block grant adjustment. Although that significant investment is welcome, we must have the evidence to show that it is having the impact that we want it to have. I ask the witnesses to say—perhaps by referring to one or another of those measures—where the evidence is that the additional investment is having the impact that we would like to see. Where the evidence is not there, does that mean that there is a gap and that we need to collect data, or do we have to do something else? There is quite a lot in that question to start off our evidence session.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Bob Doris

That is very helpful.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Bob Doris

Does the spend have a positive impact? Yes. Is it a massive investment? Yes. However, is it value for money? That is the next question that we have to ask. It is clear that spending huge amounts of money to tackle child poverty and support disabled people and carers will have a positive impact, but we have to ask whether it is value for money. If the policy intent is to tackle poverty and support disabled people and carers, is that suite of measures good value for money?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Bob Doris

Thanks. I will bring in Jeremy Balfour to ask some supplementary questions, but it might be reasonable, when he asks his questions, if he brings in Edel Harris to comment on some of this, given the previous comments that we have had.

Over to you, Jeremy.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Bob Doris

I am deferring to you, Jeremy, if you want to come back in.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 11 September 2025

Bob Doris

Do you mind if we move on, Alexander?