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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 February 2026
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you, cabinet secretary—that is pretty clear.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

Agenda item 4 is our first evidence session on the Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill at stage 1. I welcome Professor Colin Reid, emeritus professor of environmental law at the University of Dundee. Colin is in the room today. We also have Professor Calvin Jones, an economist, who is online. I thank you both for joining us. We have also been joined by Sarah Boyack, who is the member in charge of the bill. I will bring her in, in due course, to ask questions.

The first question is a general opening one and is from me. We have lots of questions to get through this morning, and almost every area of the bill will be covered. It will be tempting for our witnesses to stray into aspects of the bill that we are not mentioning just now. However, if we can try to keep answers focused—I know that that is very difficult sometimes—that will be helpful.

The policy memorandum explores the concept of policy coherence for sustainable development. Do you agree with the analysis, and can you share any examples of where such an approach has resulted from legislation?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

Before we move to Marie McNair, I want to check something. The definition of wellbeing in this bill includes

“(b) freedom from fear, oppression, abuse and neglect”.

A lot of Scottish public authorities will be asking, “Where do we fit into that when it comes to planetary boundaries?” What burden or obligation would it be reasonable to put on them? I am not being glib—I just want you to make it real to me. I see wellbeing as an overarching suite of things that we would all like to have in our lives as individuals, families and communities, but are we expecting public authorities to be making contributions to every aspect of it, Professor Reid?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

Some will be relevant on some occasions, but not all will be relevant on all occasions, so to speak.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

Do you have any views on the powers relating to investigations that the commissioner could run with? In particular, do you have any suggestions or thoughts on the kinds of reasonable grounds under which a general investigation could be initiated?

I will stick with Professor Reid, but I will bring in Professor Jones.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

If you are suggesting that the definition is as good as we are going to get but that there are issues with it, could you give one or two examples—briefly, because of the time constraints, or perhaps by following up in writing—of where the lack of clarity around the definition has caused an issue?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

Could you follow that up in writing? That is a wee bittie concerning.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

Absolutely. For as long as I have been in the Parliament—I have been here since 2007—there has always been a bit of a stooshie about what should and should not be on the list in legislation, which is why we need to drill down on the issue a bit more.

Section 1 talks about having “due regard”, rather than “regard”, for sustainable development and wellbeing. Professor Reid, is that appropriate terminology?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

That was helpful.

Moving to the work of the commissioner themselves, do our witnesses have any thoughts on the requirement for the commissioner to produce guidance and to keep the guidance under review? Professor Jones, can I bring you in first?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

That is helpful. I will go to Professor Reid, but I will sneak in the next question at the same time, because of time constraints. Do you have any reflections on what you have heard?

Also, the commissioner would be required to keep under review the law, policy and practice relating to wellbeing and sustainable development. That seems a significant function. What are the challenges and opportunities around that?