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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 February 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

Simon McNamara, I was taking your name in vain. Having heard the answers from Ralph Lavery and Doug McKiernan, is Loganair reassured that the jigsaw is coming together and that Loganair is well placed to use those new technologies, producers and suppliers to decarbonise its fleet?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

It is for you, but Ralph can reply, too. You mentioned that that is enough time for those new technologies to develop sufficiently. What was that based on?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

Can you say a little bit more about that? I asked where production should be sited, and you said that you are doing it directly in relation to SAF. How does that work? Where do these sites go for the production? Simon McNamara is here because he wants to use it for his fleet of aircraft. How does that co-location and production feed in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

I will ask Ralph Lavery the same question. Before I do, can I check that you are confident that the new technologies that are being developed will be good to go by 2030 and able to bring the next target in sight?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

That is helpful. It was not a gut feeling that the timescale would be sufficient—you have direct business experience that this area is developing.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

Okay. Thank you. Doug McKiernan, I will bring you in, but I will ask my final question first.

A thread running throughout this is that a lot of the generation is very electricity intensive, and UK industry has some of the highest electricity costs in the world. How can the sector drive down electricity costs? Those costs must feed in quite directly to the overall cost of the production of SAF. Do you have any reflections on what Ralph Lavery has said? Also, how can we get on top of rising electricity prices, which might hamper the development of this market?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you for reinforcing that. I will come to you, Simon McNamara, but I first want to explore this a wee bit further. That is one way in which we can get power-to-liquid SAF. I am treading carefully, because my knowledge base is pretty low—Ralph Lavery, you can help me out here—but I believe that low-carbon hydrogen feedstock can also be used for the production of SAF. We have heard that there is confidence in the CO2 feedstock. How should that sector develop? Where should production be sited as it develops?

It is also important to say a little bit more about the transportation of hydrogen, because this committee has asked about it previously and there are challenges in relation to that. It would be helpful if you could say a little bit more about that, Ralph.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for coming. We will suspend briefly before we move to the next agenda—[Interruption.]

My apologies. We are tight for time, so I cut bits out of my brief, but I had better just put this on the record.

The committee will report on the outcome on the instrument in due course. Are members content to delegate responsibility to me to publish a short factual report to the Parliament on the affirmative instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

Good morning, and welcome to the 26th meeting in 2025 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. We have apologies from Collette Stevenson and Michael Marra. We are hoping that our colleague Jeremy Balfour will join us online shortly; he has not made it yet.

Our first item of business is a decision on taking business in private. Do members agree to take items 5 and 6 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 9 October 2025

Bob Doris

Our next item of business is consideration of a Scottish statutory instrument. The instrument is subject to the affirmative procedure, which means that Parliament must approve it before it comes into force.

I welcome to the meeting Shirley-Anne Somerville, who is the Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, and her officials Dawn Kane, who is senior policy officer for carer benefits, Jane Sterry, who is team leader for the carer support payment policy, and Karolina Bodzak, who is a solicitor in the disability and carer benefits branch. Thank you all for joining us this morning.

Following the evidence session, the committee will be invited in an upcoming agenda item to consider a motion to approve the instrument. I remind everyone that the Scottish Government officials can speak under this agenda item but not in the debate that follows. I invite the cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.