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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 August 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

That is context, because, although we may not have known the acronyms, we kind of knew the amount. It is more about how price, quality and other criteria are considered once those bids are finalised and put in for consideration.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

I will be careful with my next question on quality, because every bidder must be dealt with consistently and equitably as part of the process.

In relation to quality, a bid on paper can be very different from what is delivered in the shipyard. In relation to the demand to build, is phase 1 of the small vessels programme more straightforward, given the other questions that we have been asking about other ships under contract? Does the track record of individual shipyards in delivering such vessels in the past come into play when determining who wins an award? Also, how can you compare the bidders when two of the bidders have never bid for work with you guys before—so they are new entrants from your point of view—while the other four bidders have an on-going relationship with you?

How do you balance the quality on paper with what the quality will be on delivery? Anyone can put on paper that the vessel or vessels will be good quality, but it is delivery that counts, within the cost envelope. How do you disaggregate that when determining quality?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Great British Energy Bill

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

I just want to check something. Clause 5(3) of the bill says:

“The Secretary of State must lay a copy of the statement, and of any revised or replacement statement, before Parliament.”

That got me thinking about whether we could get agreement from the UK Government about the current set of strategic priorities. The Scottish Government has to agree to those priorities as they relate to devolved matters. However, the deputy convener talked about an evolving situation. In 18 months’ time, or in two or three years’ time, the UK Government may reset its strategic priorities. Is it the Scottish Government’s position that this is not a one-off consenting process for strategic priorities but that, under clause 5, it is an on-going process?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Great British Energy Bill

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

Your UK Government counterparts should be following this scrutiny session, so—

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

It is at variance from the original specifications.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

Just to be clear, a significant hurdle has already been passed by all six bidders that are still in the game, so to speak—those that are about to put in finalised bids.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

I have a final question about that. All the bidders will want to make sure that they are fairly treated. There will be a lot of commercial confidentiality in relation to each of the bids, because quality relates to the overall financial cost of the bid that they will put in. Are all the bidders getting equal access to all the data, the information, the paperwork—all the things that I can only imagine are really important—to the nth degree to the same extent as one another, so that it is a fair, open and transparent process?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Ferry Services

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

Even at this late stage, if I was acting on behalf of one of the bidders, and I was seeking additional information from you, I could request it, but the answer would be given to all six bidders. Is that right?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Great British Energy Bill

Meeting date: 7 January 2025

Bob Doris

CEOs come and go, and what is left is what is in statute—and that is what we have to scrutinise. I would be keen to see the word “consent” in clause 6 as well. I would also be keen to see how the approach will be reviewed in the future in relation to whether the powers that are passed to the UK Government on an operational basis do what it says on the tin and give us the outcomes that we want. It is important for the committee to get a balanced view on the passing of the powers, or on recommending that the powers be passed via an LCM to the UK Government.