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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 February 2026
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Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Bob Doris

I appreciate the exchange between Mr McMillan and Mr McArthur. It is important that Mr McArthur says that he wants to align with the GMC guidance as it is. If Mr McMillan decides not to move his amendments, one solution would be to put the GMC guidance—we all agree that it is the correct guidance—in the bill in order to give the certainty that is required, rather than finding a workaround. If the definition exists, why not put it in the bill and apply it?

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Bob Doris

Primarily, I want to reassure Mr McArthur, notwithstanding his lack of support for my set of amendments, that the commencement order was not intended to cause any undue delay. Those were not wrecking amendments in the slightest. The underlying principle that I adhere to here is that we should decide what regulation looks like and bring it into force before assisted dying begins. Therefore, it is a sequential amendment rather than a blocking amendment. That is an important point to make.

Health, Social Care and Sport Committee [Draft]

Assisted Dying for Terminally Ill Adults (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 4 November 2025

Bob Doris

I answer that in two ways. The first relates to Mr Balfour’s intervention earlier. Someone who may be a confident, enabled individual could get a terminal diagnosis, and everything that follows from that could lead to that person having less self-worth. That should not be so, Mr Harvie, but that could happen. They could have adult family members with caring roles for their primary care needs. They may think that they are a burden on those individuals, and their view of their own self-worth may be impacted by that. That is an anecdotal potential example, which I probably should not give, because that is not the intention of amendment 139. The intention of the amendment is to be consistent with how the medical profession and the General Medical Council define coercion. That is not my view in relation to how coercion should be defined. A definition exists in all other areas, and it seems to be remiss not to have it in this area of life and death.

I absolutely accept Mr Harvie’s point that it would be better to understand that a bit more. I agree with him, but I ask the rhetorical question of why we would use the GMC definition of coercion for everything else but not use it on assisted dying. My amendment would simply make sure that we are consistent in our approach.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

Welcome back, everyone. We will continue with our questioning.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you, Frances. It is almost as though you have seen my next question, which is on the national performance framework. Before I ask it, does Adam Milne want to come in?|

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

That is helpful. We have a variance of views across the panel, then. Adam was very clear that legislation is required, but our other witnesses were a bit more open minded.

We should probably take Frances Guy first to answer the next question. She mentioned the national performance framework. The Scottish Government’s proposals are aligned to Scotland’s national outcomes in the national performance framework that exists. Whether it is working well is another matter, but it exists. Is legislation required to bolster activity relating to sustainable development and wellbeing under the outcomes in the framework?

I will take a step back from that question and reword it slightly. Is there a framework there that could work very well if the Government used it properly and there was a proper focus?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you. That is helpful, because it suggests that, whether or not we legislate, something has to change in relation to the framework.

Adam Milne, do you want to add anything?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

Welcome back, everyone. I return to Mr Balfour.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

We will absolutely be looking at the commissioner’s role during the evidence session. Thank you for that.

I turn to Skye Allan and Kristers Lukins. Does the Scottish Youth Parliament believe that passing the bill is the only way to secure policy coherence?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Wellbeing and Sustainable Development (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 October 2025

Bob Doris

Before we move on, I want to check something that Lloyd Austin said. Lloyd, I do not have a particular view on this, but I would like to clarify what you said. You mentioned that the phrase “sustainable economic growth” has been used a lot over the years but is not used so much now. Do you believe that sustainable economic growth is desirable or possible?

The reason why I am asking about that is that some people—not necessarily me; I am open minded—might think that questioning sustainable economic growth and passing the legislation that is before us could be a constraint on the pursuit of sustainable economic growth in itself. You can write to us on that if you want. I just want to give you an opportunity to put something on the record in that regard.