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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 31 October 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you for that. It is very helpful.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

I am trying to get my head around the issues and how we can better understand them as a committee. Power-to-liquid or third-generation SAF can require CO2 feedstock. How secure is the CO2 feedstock, and are there sufficient quantities of it? What are the best sources currently, and will they change in the longer term as we need greater supply? What will the challenges be around that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

It is helpful to get that on the record, which is why I wanted to follow up on that.

Ralph, do you want to add anything to what you have heard?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

Simon McNamara, I was taking your name in vain. Having heard the answers from Ralph Lavery and Doug McKiernan, is Loganair reassured that the jigsaw is coming together and that Loganair is well placed to use those new technologies, producers and suppliers to decarbonise its fleet?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

It is for you, but Ralph can reply, too. You mentioned that that is enough time for those new technologies to develop sufficiently. What was that based on?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

Can you say a little bit more about that? I asked where production should be sited, and you said that you are doing it directly in relation to SAF. How does that work? Where do these sites go for the production? Simon McNamara is here because he wants to use it for his fleet of aircraft. How does that co-location and production feed in?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

I will ask Ralph Lavery the same question. Before I do, can I check that you are confident that the new technologies that are being developed will be good to go by 2030 and able to bring the next target in sight?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

That is helpful. It was not a gut feeling that the timescale would be sufficient—you have direct business experience that this area is developing.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

Okay. Thank you. Doug McKiernan, I will bring you in, but I will ask my final question first.

A thread running throughout this is that a lot of the generation is very electricity intensive, and UK industry has some of the highest electricity costs in the world. How can the sector drive down electricity costs? Those costs must feed in quite directly to the overall cost of the production of SAF. Do you have any reflections on what Ralph Lavery has said? Also, how can we get on top of rising electricity prices, which might hamper the development of this market?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Sustainable Aviation Fuel Bill

Meeting date: 28 October 2025

Bob Doris

Thank you for reinforcing that. I will come to you, Simon McNamara, but I first want to explore this a wee bit further. That is one way in which we can get power-to-liquid SAF. I am treading carefully, because my knowledge base is pretty low—Ralph Lavery, you can help me out here—but I believe that low-carbon hydrogen feedstock can also be used for the production of SAF. We have heard that there is confidence in the CO2 feedstock. How should that sector develop? Where should production be sited as it develops?

It is also important to say a little bit more about the transportation of hydrogen, because this committee has asked about it previously and there are challenges in relation to that. It would be helpful if you could say a little bit more about that, Ralph.