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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 July 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

Thank you for that. Finlay Carson wants to come back in.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments not subject to Parliamentary Procedure

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

In relation to SSI 2024/382, does the committee wish to welcome that the Scottish Government has undertaken to reflect on whether the statutory pay conditions should be narrated in the preamble of the order in the event that future orders are required under that enabling power?

Members indicated agreement.

10:46 Meeting continued in private until 11:21.  

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

Okay. Thank you. I bring in Roz McCall.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

Is there anything else that you would like to put on the record before you leave?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

I thank all the witnesses for their evidence. After the meeting, if there are any further points that you feel that it would be useful for the committee to be made aware of, it would be extremely helpful if you could write to us.

I suspend the meeting briefly to allow our witnesses to leave.

10:42 Meeting suspended.  

10:44 On resuming—  

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

Is the committee content with the instruments?

Members indicated agreement.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Negative Procedure

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

Is the committee content with the instruments?

Members indicated agreement.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

I welcome Katy Clark to the committee. I take the opportunity, on behalf of the committee, to thank Daniel Johnson MSP for his hard work and his valuable contribution. Daniel recognised the importance of the committee’s work and was a diligent member. We wish him well in future.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

Under item 3 we will continue taking evidence as part of the committee’s inquiry into framework legislation and Henry VIII powers.

I welcome to the room Finlay Carson MSP, convener of the Scottish Parliament’s Rural Affairs and Islands Committee and Kenneth Gibson MSP, convener of the Finance and Public Administration Committee. Joining us online are Mike Hedges MS, chair of the Senedd’s Legislation, Justice and Constitutional Committee, and Sir Jonathan Jones KC, senior consultant at Linklaters LLP.

Witnesses should not worry about switching on their microphones, because that will be done for you. If you would like to come in on any question, please raise your hand or indicate that to the clerks. It is no problem at all if you do not want to answer all the questions. We plan to spend around an hour on questions today.

The written evidence that we have received so far has been very helpful and our two previous evidence-taking sessions have also been enlightening. I invite the witnesses to share some of their experiences of engaging with framework legislation and their reflections on the main scrutiny challenges of doing so. I know that the Finance and Public Administration Committee has highlighted the issue of the financial cost of bills and that the Rural Affairs and Islands Committee has considered a couple of different definitions of “framework”.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Framework Legislation and Henry VIII Powers

Meeting date: 21 January 2025

Stuart McMillan

Kenny Gibson is about to leave the meeting. Kenny, is there anything that you want to put in the record before you go?