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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

I have a 20-minute neighbourhoods example, but I will not go into it today, because I can talk to you about it another time.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Sure. With regard to paragraph 45 of the report, and the “detailed analysis”, do you have any indication of the cost of the reports involved in that?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

There is an excellent story to tell. I only found out a few weeks ago about what ScotRail offers, because I was dealing with it on behalf of a constituent. I put the point to ScotRail that it needs to tell more people about its openness and its offer to help people. ScotRail told me that, as a consequence of that offer, more people with disabilities are travelling on the rail network as opposed to sitting at home and doing nothing.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

That ties into paragraph 14, which is on page 11, and exhibit 8, which is on page 37, with regard to areas that are outwith the Scottish Parliament’s powers. A potential suggestion is—dare I say it—to reduce fuel duty, which would impact on bus travel overall. Paragraph 67 mentions bus operators cancelling services and the many challenges that they face. If bus travel was cheaper, more people would certainly be aided and encouraged to use that form of transport. Surely a discussion could be had about passing on a reduction in fuel duty to bus operators in order to reduce the cost of tickets.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Paragraph 16 covers an issue that has been under discussion for some time. I always read Audit Scotland’s overarching reports through the prism of how it will affect my Greenock and Inverclyde constituency. There has been past dialogue about a Glasgow airport rail link, and now there is discussion about a metro scheme, but every option that has come forward would have a negative impact on public transport usage in Inverclyde and would reduce services from Inverclyde to Glasgow.

I have a meeting with the Strathclyde Partnership for Transport about the issue on Friday, but surely any proposals or projects that come forward, whether from SPT or anyone else in the country, should add to public transport usage; they should not be at its expense.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Thank you. To follow on from Jamie Greene’s questions about electric vehicles—he helpfully shared a variety of information, particularly regarding Norway—in paragraph 13, you say that you are “considering” looking into a charging network. Will that work take place or are you still in consideration mode?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Okay. Thank you.

Paragraphs 34 and 35 are particularly interesting. The first bullet point in paragraph 34 states:

“Other directorates in the Scottish Government or councils will also decide where to locate services such as hospitals and schools which will affect the extent to which people need to travel.”

Paragraph 35 states that

“Councils have requested further guidance and support from the Scottish Government”

and so on. What type of guidance are they asking for? I have a particular question on this issue, but I am keen to understand that first.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Okay.

Paragraph 27 on page 16 of the report states:

“Recent policy decisions suggest that the Scottish Government has deprioritised the target in the face of growing financial pressures, for example the peak fares reversal ... and reducing funding for active travel.”

That is just an opinion from you. Do you have anything to fully back that up?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

That is a valid area, with a variety of elements, to look at. It is not just about the charging points and vehicles, which are not cheap. The higher-range electric vehicles are certainly more reliable compared with those at the lower range.

On the economic perspective, I refer to a report that was published earlier this month by the Loughborough centre for research in public policy, which highlighted that 24 million people in the UK are below socially unacceptable living standards. The economic challenge of purchasing an electric vehicle prohibits people who want to do the right thing from doing so.

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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Negative Procedure

Meeting date: 25 February 2025

Stuart McMillan

Under agenda item 4, we are considering seven instruments, on which no points have been raised.