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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

That is quite helpful information.

How does SCAD assess the effectiveness of previous decisions to intervene, or not, in a particular business or to make follow-on investments such as the recent investment of £14.2 million in Ferguson’s?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

With regard to that expertise, would you get somebody who has an understanding of and experience in the shipbuilding industry to give you that advice?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

I do not dispute that in any way, shape or form, because I genuinely recognise that it is a different operating model.

We have heard today that you do not deal with the day-to-day operations—that is obviously for others—but the fact is that the yard has clearly not been competitive. If there was more scrutiny of the day-to-day operations—whether that is scrutiny of the accounting officer or of the new chief executive, who must obviously be given time to prove his worth—that would surely help to make the yard competitive. The yard cannot compete with China. Very few can compete with countries where the labour costs are a lot less; I think that we would all acknowledge that. There are things that the yard can do, and has done in the past, so that it can compete, but the cost situation is clearly hampering that. Therefore, I implore you and your staff to have more input and to carry out more of a scrutiny function and more due diligence of the yard’s day-to-day operations.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

This is my final question, convener. The version of the First Marine International report that we have is heavily redacted, although there is some very useful and helpful information in what we can read of it. To what extent did Scottish Government officials challenge the levels of redaction in the reports? Did FMI provide you with a rationale for the aspects that it deemed to be too commercially sensitive to release?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

That is unacceptable.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

The correspondence in relation to the instruments has been published alongside the papers for this meeting. It sets out the committee’s questions and the Scottish Government’s responses in full.

The committee’s detailed findings will be set out in its report, which will be published in due course. The report will also set out its consideration of subordinate legislation at this meeting.

The first instrument would make significant amendments to the deposit and return scheme that is contained in the Deposit and Return Scheme for Scotland Regulations 2020, or SSI 2020/154. Does the committee wish to draw the instrument to the attention of the Parliament on reporting ground (i), which is that its drafting appears to be defective in respect of the point that is raised in the committee’s question 10, and on the general reporting ground in respect of the points that are raised in questions 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9?

Members indicated agreement.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

The correspondence in relation to the instruments has been published alongside the papers for this meeting. It sets out the committee’s questions and the Scottish Government’s responses in full.

The committee’s detailed findings will be set out in its report, which will be published in due course. The report will also set out its consideration of subordinate legislation at this meeting.

The first instrument would make significant amendments to the deposit and return scheme that is contained in the Deposit and Return Scheme for Scotland Regulations 2020, or SSI 2020/154. Does the committee wish to draw the instrument to the attention of the Parliament on reporting ground (i), which is that its drafting appears to be defective in respect of the point that is raised in the committee’s question 10, and on the general reporting ground in respect of the points that are raised in questions 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9?

Members indicated agreement.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

In evidence, we have received a range of detailed drafting suggestions for the bill. Do you have any comments on any of the suggestions that have been made by members of the legal profession and others who have been in touch with the committee?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Minister, what are your thoughts on the argument that the Scottish Government should carry out an awareness-raising campaign on the impact of the bill? If the Government is minded to do so, what form would a campaign take?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Leases (Automatic Continuation etc) (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 20 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Before I bring in Jeremy Balfour, I have a couple of questions along this line of questioning. Bill Kidd asked a couple of questions on this, but, whatever process is in the bill—and regardless of whether any amendments go forward—surely it should be clear to any party involved in a lease exactly what the implications will be for them. They should understand what the notice period would be and what the process is for ending a lease. The point that there needs to be a clear narrative and a clear set of rules has come across in the evidence that we have heard, irrespective of evidence on various other things.

You could also argue that there should be a consistent approach. The rigid approach, as proposed in the bill, could work well. However, business is not always as rigid as the rules that are set out. Having a bit of flexibility could be beneficial, as long as everyone understands exactly where they are.