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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 September 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Stuart McMillan

Thank you.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Stuart McMillan

Would it be common to operate using two separate bits of legislation?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Stuart McMillan

Okay, thank you.

On 2 May, the Scottish Law Commission said to the committee that it is important that the trust law reforms ultimately apply to the pension trusts as well. You just touched on that issue with regard to the definition. Do you think that if the pension trusts are not included, that will have a detrimental effect on implementation of the law?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Stuart McMillan

Good morning, and welcome to the 15th meeting in 2023 of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee. I remind everyone present to switch their mobile phones to silent. We have received apologies from Oliver Mundell.

The first item of business is to decide whether to take item 6 in private. Are members content to take that item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Stuart McMillan

I will go into one aspect of the bill that has come up so far, which is the issue of the section 104 order. Do the witnesses believe that the Scottish and the United Kingdom Governments should design a protocol, so that, if there is a section 104 issue with the bill, that can be dealt with automatically?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Stuart McMillan

I mean in general. Last week, the Parliament passed the Moveable Transactions (Scotland) Bill, and the section 104 order was one of the outstanding issues with the bill—it certainly was at the beginning of the bill process, but the section 104 issue has arisen again.

I suspect that as more Scottish Law Commission bills are introduced—and potentially other legislation—the section 104 order might become more of an issue. If a protocol of some kind was put together, would that help with the advancement of legislation?

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instrument subject to Negative Procedure

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Stuart McMillan

No points have been raised on the order. Is the committee content with the instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Instruments subject to Affirmative Procedure

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Stuart McMillan

Under agenda item 3, we are considering instruments that are subject to the affirmative procedure.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Stuart McMillan

Mercedes, before you move on, as Yvonne Evans has just indicated, the Law Society is coming to the committee next week. If the panel members have any further thoughts on section 65 between now and next week, and if they want to send something to the committee, that would be very helpful. Sorry, Mercedes.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 9 May 2023

Stuart McMillan

On that point, I note that, in your submission, you state:

“A full codification would have stretched the SLC’s resources and would have considerably delayed the completion of the project. From a practical point of view the SLC had to stop somewhere. Passing the existing bill would not preclude the possibility of further measures at some time in the future.”

Is what is proposed in the bill, notwithstanding the comments that have been made today, a useful starting point to update the law on succession to help with the flow of activity?