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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 18 September 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

In all fairness to the shop stewards, they have been asking to have an input for some time. It should not take a meeting that I organised with the Deputy First Minister and two shop stewards to get that point raised yet again, when the shop stewards have been raising those points directly to the chair of the board and the organisation. Fundamentally, the shop stewards want the yard to survive and to thrive. If there is going to be better engagement, I welcome that, and I am sure that that would also be welcomed on the shop floor. However, it should not take that type of action for that to happen.

The committee recently received correspondence from the permanent secretary to the Scottish Government, which said:

“The Directors of FMPG have raised concerns about their ability to operate in a fully commercial manner, taking account of their responsibilities and liabilities as Directors under the Companies Act, alongside constraints on their commercial decisions by virtue of compliance with Scottish Government guidance such as the Scottish Public Finance Manual”.

When I read that, my first thought—notwithstanding the legal aspect that directors clearly have to operate under, which I would not argue with at all—was that that looks as though the directors are passing the buck, because they have not undertaken their duties in the way that they should have. Do you agree?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

I am sorry, but—

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

I am sorry for interrupting, but they are allowed in for only 15 minutes at a time.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Thank you very much, convener, and thank you for your comments, Mr Irwin.

Workstream 2 of the transparency review is on freedom of information. Of the FOI requests, 95 per cent have been replied to within the statutory deadline. How many FOIs have come in?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

SCAD came into being in 2022-23. It would be helpful if you could go back to that point for the annual numbers.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

The first study is clearly about the benchmarking. SCAD came in in 2022-23 and that was the benchmark point. What engagement do you have with the yard?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Am I right in assuming that you do not have any dealings with day-to-day operations and activities?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Do all contracts from Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow go on to Public Contracts Scotland, if they are above the relevant threshold?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

Notwithstanding the fact that two new people have joined the board, do you have confidence in the chair of the board and in the board?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Scottish Government Strategic Commercial Assets Division

Meeting date: 21 May 2025

Stuart McMillan

That is helpful, and it would be good if you could provide that information, Mr Rhatigan.

On Ferguson Marine Port Glasgow, Mr Irwin, you touched on the reports that First Marine International sent to the committee. There were six different reports and the covering letter accompanying them states that the first study, which took place in 2020-21, was, in effect, about the benchmarking, and the second study, which took place in 2022-23, was the potential improvements study.

Between those two reports and the level of scrutiny that the division, with that information, has placed on the yard—obviously, you have the unredacted versions as compared to us—and bearing in mind how politically sensitive the situation with FMPG is and how many jobs are involved with the yard, what genuine activity has your division undertaken and what input does it have with regard to the yard?