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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 February 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

That is helpful.

I turn to issues related to resourcing. Katy Clark asked a question on part 2 of the bill, but issues have also been raised about resourcing in relation to part 3. The submission from the Crown Office sets out its concern that

“the Bill’s Financial Memorandum … suggests that implementation of Part 3 within COPFS will be low and met within existing budgets.”

It goes on to say that

“Given the range of data to be collected … and the interface of COPFS systems, implementation is likely to require significant system updates with corresponding resource implications.”

Will you say a bit more about that? Has any assessment been done as to the likely resource implications for the organisation?

Police Scotland said something similar. It said that it is

“generally supportive of the principles of Part 3”,

but that

“implementation would require Police Scotland to develop training mechanisms to ensure that the relevant data was collected appropriately and sensitively, along with updates to internal systems to ensure that data is recorded and reported accurately.”

I will therefore put the same question to Detective Superintendent Brown.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I presume that the answer to this question will be yes—please correct me if I am wrong—but, just to round this off, do you feel that the issue has not been given due consideration and that there is a possibility that the bill as drafted might fall foul of our legislation with regard to compliance with the UNCRC?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

In effect, you are saying that there would be another way of collecting the data without a statutory requirement for victims to be repeatedly asked to provide details.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I get the sense that there is a strong view on the efficacy of the proposals. Could you say a bit more about that? It is pretty stark to say that there will be “significant unintended negative consequences”.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I see—right. If you could speak to your colleague and ask them what they were getting at, that would be great.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I will not get too drawn on Maryhill fire station, even though it is the one that was closest to me when I grew up. I totally understand your point, which is that you do not want to get drawn into pitting one area against another. However, do you accept my point that, given that we have a national service, with all its advantages, the national picture and how areas interact with one another should be part of the equation when it comes to service redesign?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service (Service Delivery Review)

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I have one other area to raise on service redesign. You mentioned the need to provide dignified facilities and to address the presence of RAAC, which is an issue at Cumbernauld fire station. Clearly, there are constraints around capital—I do not mean for the service; I am speaking in general terms about the pressures on the Government as a whole—and, to be even-handed, you have recognised and cited that the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service understands the issue of RAAC and the need for dignified facilities.

On service redesign more widely, the world has changed. You yourselves have set out in the “Firestorm” report that the service might need to be redesigned and thought through. You will probably not be able to get into too much detail, given the time that we have, but can you set out some of the high-level points that would require to be addressed as part of a review or change to the service provision?

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I will just make sure that that is your evidence and that I have not misattributed it to you.

Criminal Justice Committee 3 December 2025 [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

It is your submission, for sure—it is the response to question 7.1.

My question was whether you could expand on your written response, but perhaps I am putting you on the spot a little. You could maybe come back to the committee in writing.