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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 February 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Is there a concern that the bill could cut across that and divert activity away from what has been the purpose of the discussion thus far?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

That means that significant progress will be made by the end of next year. Are you confident that we will be able to roll the system out across the country in due course?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I have a few questions on the back of the letter that the minister kindly sent to us yesterday. My first question relates to the Government’s assessment of the financial memorandum and the cost of the bill. You set out that there would be significant costs for local authorities, which have been estimated—I will not give the precise number—to be about £4.7 million under part 2 of the bill and about £4.8 million under part 4. The memorandum indicates that those costs are likely to be underestimates. What led you to that conclusion? Do you have a more realistic figure for the specific costs for local authorities, as well as for the cost of the bill as a whole?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Thank you.

I have one final question, which relates to education in schools. In its evidence, the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service highlights the right given in the bill to withdraw pupils from domestic abuse education and suggests that there could be implications in respect of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child. I found that an interesting observation. Can you say any more about it?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

That sounds as though it could be an extensive process for Police Scotland.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Apologies. I have a heavy cold today. I have a few questions for the witnesses, predicated on some of the written evidence that you have provided, with some questions that are specific to specific witnesses. The first is for the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service and is on the area of data collection and reporting. In your helpful submission, you set out your concern that the provisions in the bill

“provide for a victim of domestic abuse potentially being asked for the same comprehensive personal data multiple times”.

Will you expand on that a little further and set out why that might be a concern?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I will stick with data collection and reporting for a question to Professor Gilchrist in relation to the Law Society’s written evidence, in which you set out concerns regarding the proposal. Perhaps you can respond more widely on what those concerns might be, but I notice that you say specifically that, as an organisation, you wonder

“whether it would be more useful to analyse data regarding the offence itself rather than the complainers’ characteristics.”

Will you say a bit more about that?

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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

That was helpful.

I know that you did not cite this issue, Professor Gilchrist, but I saw you nodding along to what Dr Forbes was saying. Do you have an observation on this area?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Is there potential for the cost to be quite significant?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Do you get the sense that not enough thought has been given to the issue of compliance with the UNCRC at this stage?