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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Jamie Hepburn
I put this question to the previous panel, and to last week’s panel. What impact have the increased employer national insurance contributions had on your service?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Jamie Hepburn
You have pre-empted my follow-up question, which was about how many firefighter posts that would equate to, so thank you for getting ahead of me.
The convener has told us—quite rightly—not to get into the detail on the service delivery review, and I do not intend to do so. However, you refer to it in your submission as it relates to the budgets, so I have a very quick question on that.
You say that the changes would enable you “to make savings”. That may be true, but my understanding—from engaging with organisations, and from what we have been told by the Minister for Victims and Community Safety, who presumably got the information from you—is that the changes are not driven by the budget, so if you were given an uplift in budget, you would still be looking to make those changes. Is that correct?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Jamie Hepburn
I understand and appreciate that—I am not looking to get into the detail. I just wanted to understand that the review is not driven by budgetary concerns per se.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Jamie Hepburn
That is all I wanted to understand on that.
I have one final quick question, which relates to another part of the SFRS submission, on the challenges around recruitment of on-call firefighters; I think that we all understand that. I might be asking Sharon Dowey’s question, so I apologise to her—I am just going to crack on and ask it.
Your submission says:
“An additional £4million is being invested annually in revised terms and conditions”.
I suppose the fundamental question is, first, is that continuing investment, and secondly, is it proving effective?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Jamie Hepburn
So, that has been worked through.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Jamie Hepburn
And that will not have an impact on the service that is provided.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Jamie Hepburn
Mr Graham, does that touch on what you referred to earlier? Should these issues be addressed collaboratively across the justice system, or even more widely? It is not only the component parts of the justice system that are facing these challenges, so there is something to be said for ensuring that there is a wider collaborative effort on cyber resilience.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Jamie Hepburn
A lot of the ground that I hoped to touch on has been covered already. I will focus on the proposed repeal of section 46 of the Civic Government (Scotland) Act 1982.
It was instructive to hear from Detective Superintendent Bertram that, in effect—I am paraphrasing his evidence—Police Scotland is not currently operating cases under that section. The figures that Dr Forbes has provided certainly seem to substantiate that. Just to drill into those a little further, Dr Forbes, you mentioned that there were 46 charges in 10 cases during the period from April 2020 until August this year. Does the figure of 10 cases mean that 10 individuals were involved?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Jamie Hepburn
The fundamental point is that there were two prosecutions. You said that that would probably have been because there were other associated charges.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Jamie Hepburn
There have been differences of opinion in the evidence that we have taken thus far. Some people feel strongly that, if the proposed new law were to be introduced, it would drive activity underground. As a consequence, that could make the environment less safe and more violent for those who are involved in the selling of sex. That is pretty concerning to hear. I accept the point that others have made, which is that we can never make the environment truly safe. I understand that. Some say that the evidence suggests that the approach that the bill advocates would not lead to an upturn in violent behaviour, but we have heard that it would. Have you a perspective on the likely outcome?