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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

Police Scotland and the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service are not the Government, are they?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

You told me that you could, if you were. You just said—

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

I fully accept that I am probing you on that, which is what we are here to do.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

I have one final question for Ms Gosal. What would you say in response to the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service and the Law Society of Scotland if they flagged concerns about the UNCRC compatibility of other bills?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

I will stick with part 1 of the bill. In our evidence session with the Scottish Women’s Convention and Scottish Women’s Aid, I was quite struck by—indeed, I was quite surprised by—the significant concerns that they raised about your bill. Scottish Women’s Aid felt that the provisions in part 1 would offer only a “minimal” amount of safety for victims or accountability for perpetrators, and that they would place a “heavy bureaucratic burden” on organisations. What is your response to Scottish Women’s Aid’s concerns?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

Surely we have to take it at face value that she was speaking on behalf of Scottish Women’s Aid. She was not here to speak on her own behalf, was she?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

If that is weighed against the concerns of Scottish Women’s Aid that it would provide a “minimal” amount of safety for victims or accountability for perpetrators, do you think that the bureaucratic burden is worth it?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

I take that point. My final question on part 1 relates to the resources that are involved. I am not going to stray into the financial memorandum, because I know that Sharon Dowey wants to ask questions about that. This probably applies to the bill more widely, not just to part 1. You have said more than once that there is no suggestion that funding for it should come from existing resources. That begs the question of where it should come from.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

Okay, well, let us pretend that you are. Where should it come from?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

Yes, but I presume that that is allocated against existing priorities. I appreciate that it is for the Government to propose a budget, but it is your bill, so you must have some idea. Do you have any idea where the resource should come from?