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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Jamie Hepburn
That is useful to hear.
You have pre-empted part of my follow-up question in respect of HMP Highland. In your annual report last year, you said that you expected HMP Highland to be completed this year. Are you still confident that we are on course to meet that?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Jamie Hepburn
I have a question about capital allocation. The Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service set out in its helpful written submission that its request was met in full. We just heard from Marlene Anderson about the request from the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service—I think that you said that you got what you asked for. That is positive news for both organisations. How will that capital funding be utilised?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 February 2026
Jamie Hepburn
Of course, it is a pressure emerging from decisions made elsewhere, but it would be useful and helpful if you could once again give us a bit more clarification in writing.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Jamie Hepburn
I have questions based on the helpful written submission that you provided. I will also ask about your process, because I am interested in understanding it better.
You talked about holding public engagement events in areas that might be impacted by the review. I appreciate that you might not be able to answer this off the top of your head, so you might have to follow up in writing, but my question is: where were they? I presume that you did not mention them all. What was the rationale for choosing those specific locations? Were they areas of primary concern, for example, or was there another reason?
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Jamie Hepburn
I think that we are just straying a bit wider here. You have already covered a lot of that territory, and what you have said is understood. I am trying to understand where these events were. It might be an unfair question, given that you might not have the detail in front of you; in that case, can we get that detail on where the public engagement events were? I think that it would be useful for us to understand that.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Jamie Hepburn
Yes—you have given the example of Kerrera. In your written submission, you made the point again that you are concerned that no information was forthcoming about how new retained firefighters would be recruited or new crews would be established.
I recognise that you are not going to be able to roll off a list of stations off the top of your head. As much as we have to consider the issue in the strategic sense, it also comes down to specifics. The reason I ask is so that we can have some understanding, if not of the specific set of stations then of the broad criteria—which you have alluded to before, in the case of Kerrera—for how you might tell that something might not be sustainable or might not be able to be kept. It would be useful to understand that. Are you able to follow up on that?
This is about context and understanding the issues better. In your written submission, you talk about the most recent incident statistics, which were published on 30 October last year, and you state:
“non-fatal fire casualties for 2024/25 were 1,069, up 30.8%.”
Obviously that is a concerning figure, but it is not placed in context. Is it up 30.8 per cent from the year before or is it a longer-term trend?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Jamie Hepburn
I have a few questions—I am just making that clear at the outset.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Jamie Hepburn
I am asking whether the process could be slightly longer, yes.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Jamie Hepburn
You were doing a good job of working your way through that list—we nearly got there. Having those details would be useful, though.
I have a follow-up question. Again, you have already touched on this, but in your submission you say that you welcome some of the benefits of the 23 change options. That might feed into John McKenzie’s point that we cannot just say, “It’s aye been, so we can’t change the service.”
Colin, you were quite specific when you gave the example of Kerrera as a station that you would probably consider to be not sustainable and one that you would not retain—if you will pardon the pun. Can you say more about the stations that you would concede will probably not be kept over the longer term?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 February 2026
Jamie Hepburn
I appreciate that there has to be space for the union and the service to talk about those things. I should make clear that I am not advocating for Kerrera fire station to close—it is just that the example was proffered previously. It is not so much about understanding specific locations, but it would be helpful to understand the process and rationale from the union’s perspective, even if we receive that later.
I have one final question. The written submission refers to the online scoring system that was used at the event in Stirling. It sets out that attendees were not able to see any of the final scores and, therefore, were unable to scrutinise the process. It might be an imponderable, because you did not necessarily see the final scores, but could you set out what practical difference it would have made had you had a better line of sight?