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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

It seems that there are alternatives to subsidies for bus routes that operators consider to be less lucrative—I refer to routes that bus operators expect the Government or the local council to top up in order for them to provide the service. Therefore, the scope to expand bus services is somewhat limited, because the cost of subsidising those routes is met by the public purse. How are we going to achieve that expansion?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

Has the Government done any evaluation work to assess the impact of existing funding of bus and rail services on reducing car use?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

Over what length of period would you expect to collect the data in order for it to be a meaningful indicator of where we are going?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

So, the breakdown of emissions excludes commercial vehicles and public transport. Is that correct?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

So, those emissions are included under domestic transport.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

Is that appropriate?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

Auditor General, before I come to ask you specific questions, there is one thing that I noticed in your report—the comment that domestic cars are by far the biggest polluter within the transport system. I seem to remember—it is only a memory—that some detailed research was done on that a couple of years ago in which commercial vehicles and public transport went beyond domestic transport as major polluters by far. In a way, that is logical, because commercial vehicles tend to use diesel and so on, which is perhaps much more polluting than petrol. Do you have any memory of that?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

In exhibit 1, you clearly detail how much in that particular calculation is for domestic transport. I am not sure where commercial vehicles and the like come into it—that is not quite clear. Will you comment on that?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

There seems to be an element of user pushback on some of these things—especially bus gates. There is an issue with those here in Edinburgh, and I think that there will be a partial reversal. Is there a consistent thread of consumer dissonance over the works that are being done?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

Is this perhaps an aspect of a fundamental change? We all talk about the pre-Covid footfall in shops, museums, public places and so on, and we always say that it has not gone back to pre-Covid levels. We are talking about how the use of public transport has not gone back to the pre-Covid level. Has there been a fundamental change within society that we need to understand to make some of these initiatives effective?