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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

In exhibit 1, you clearly detail how much in that particular calculation is for domestic transport. I am not sure where commercial vehicles and the like come into it—that is not quite clear. Will you comment on that?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

There seems to be an element of user pushback on some of these things—especially bus gates. There is an issue with those here in Edinburgh, and I think that there will be a partial reversal. Is there a consistent thread of consumer dissonance over the works that are being done?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

Is this perhaps an aspect of a fundamental change? We all talk about the pre-Covid footfall in shops, museums, public places and so on, and we always say that it has not gone back to pre-Covid levels. We are talking about how the use of public transport has not gone back to the pre-Covid level. Has there been a fundamental change within society that we need to understand to make some of these initiatives effective?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

I will say, though, that the word “domestic” implies “domestic”. It does not imply public transport, trucks or commercial vehicles.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

From my experience, I am aware that councils have been withdrawing subsidies for bus services, particularly in the slightly more rural or quasi-rural areas. Does that have a significant impact?

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

Again, to draw on my local experience, there seems to be a tendency to have a hub-and-spokes approach to bus services, which makes it extremely difficult to move around a county, because you always have to go back to the centre to get another bus out. That is a huge disincentive to using the bus, because it takes so long.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

On the basis of just reading the term, I would have said that we have to be really focusing on cars, whereas the emissions from commercial vehicles, industrial vehicles and so on are probably much higher, and maybe we should be focusing on them. The phrase distorts your view.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

That is only the case if you break down the commercial side into different-sized vehicles and so on to make the percentages smaller.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

I need to see the statistics. If you can provide them to us, that would be helpful.

Public Audit Committee

“Sustainable transport: Reducing car use”

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Colin Beattie

Did the council have any data to back that up?