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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Colin Beattie

That takes us neatly to data collection, which is always a problem for the public sector. The Auditor General comments on the lack of good data. How can we target our resources against the problem if we do not have the data to inform us how to do that? How limited is the data? Is it capable of being used to properly inform local service planning? I am thinking of the rural areas that are described as being hard to get to. You have already highlighted changing patterns in drug use and the fact that there is not one particular drug of choice. How do you make effective use of the limited data that you have, and how accurate is that data in informing how you deliver services?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Colin Beattie

I am sorry to interrupt but, to be clear, do you disagree with the Auditor General’s statement that there is a lack of good data?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Colin Beattie

You indicated that comparisons with other countries are difficult, certainly from a data point of view, but there must be lessons that we can learn from other countries. They must have had successes that we could, to be frank, steal. We should not be too proud; if someone has found a way to do something better, we should latch on to that and see if it will work here. How good are we at learning those lessons?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Colin Beattie

Thank you for the background on the data. I will come back to what I asked about before. How good is that data for the purpose of informing local service planning? I am thinking in particular about the rural side, which is more difficult to reach .

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Colin Beattie

A lot of money is going into this, there is a huge focus on it and I think that everybody in Parliament has a high expectation that DAISy will produce results. My concern is about whether the data is incomplete or will not give enough of a steer at a local level with regard to patterns of drug use and therefore the provision of the service to meet actual local need, which must differ between urban and rural areas and between different parts of the country. Are we getting enough information to be sure that we are targeting the right places with the right resources?

Public Audit Committee

“Alcohol and drug services”

Meeting date: 19 December 2024

Colin Beattie

My final question relates to early intervention, which, in almost anything, is a good thing. What progress has been made on early intervention and preventative measures by way of education in schools? How is the Scottish Government working with Education Scotland to take that forward?

09:45  

Meeting of the Commission

Audit Scotland Budget Proposal 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Colin Beattie

Our next agenda item is to take evidence on Audit Scotland’s budget proposal for 2025-26. Members can find a copy of the budget proposal, along with the covering letter from the Auditor General, in paper 1 of the meeting papers.

I welcome to the meeting Stephen Boyle, Auditor General for Scotland; Colin Crosby, chair of the Audit Scotland board; and, from Audit Scotland, Vicki Bibby, chief operating officer, Martin Walker, director corporate support, and Stuart Dennis, corporate finance manager. I welcome Colin Crosby to his first meeting as chair.

I invite Colin Crosby and then the Auditor General to make short introductory statements.

Meeting of the Commission

Audit Scotland Budget Proposal 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Colin Beattie

For my last question, I come back to the audit modernisation project and how it will be paid for. All audited bodies will benefit from a successful roll-out of the project, but why has Audit Scotland not shared its overall resource requirement for 2025-26 across all audited bodies? There is an argument that, because you have not done so, central Government and sponsored bodies are cross-subsidising other parts of the public sector’s audit fees. I know that you are conscious of that issue; indeed, in the past, we have had discussions about avoiding it.

Meeting of the Commission

Audit Scotland Budget Proposal 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Colin Beattie

Thank you. I am conscious of time but members can come in if they have a brief question.

Meeting of the Commission

Audit Scotland Budget Proposal 2025-26

Meeting date: 18 December 2024

Colin Beattie

Thank you for that opening statement. I will open up to members for questions, and I will bring in Mark Ruskell first.