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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Audit Scotland Strategic Priorities and Future Work Programme

Meeting date: 2 September 2021

Colin Beattie

I will focus on three areas. The first is in connection with the exit from the European Union. In your opening statement, you made some comments on that but, on the business planning day, you said that you were still waiting for clarity on where audit responsibility would lie in relation to the changes that are going to occur. That is still an on-going process, because parts of that agreement have still come into play.

The UK internal market and some of the existing devolved areas are currently in a little bit of limbo. What discussions have you been having with the National Audit Office, or whomever, about how those responsibilities will be divided up and whether you will still have a role in things such as the UK shared prosperity fund? It is certainly unclear to me at this point how and where that fund will be administered. All of that leads on to the question about who does the auditing. How far along are those discussions? Is there any clarity at all or are you in limbo, the same as everybody else?

Public Audit Committee

Audit Scotland Strategic Priorities and Future Work Programme

Meeting date: 2 September 2021

Colin Beattie

No doubt, your reports in the coming months will reflect some of those strains.

I will conclude by raising the matter of the national fraud initiative, which is due next year. As you know, the committee has, in the past, offered Audit Scotland support to strengthen its hand on that issue, because there was a perceived weakness in the fact that a fairly useful tool is, in fact, not mandatory. It seems extraordinary that councils and so on can decline to take part.

We also talked about other public bodies that might benefit from being part of that initiative but that are not included. You do not have the power to compel, but I think that the committee had the feeling that maybe you should have. Have you had further thoughts about that and about how you will make NFI effective next year? How will you deal with bodies that cannot be bothered to take part? Given the Covid pandemic, those bodies have been under stress and strain, and the NFI may not be a priority for them. How will you handle that?

Public Audit Committee

Audit Scotland Strategic Priorities and Future Work Programme

Meeting date: 2 September 2021

Colin Beattie

At this point, therefore, you are unaware of what your future role will be, once all this settles down.

Public Audit Committee

Audit Scotland Strategic Priorities and Future Work Programme

Meeting date: 2 September 2021

Colin Beattie

The committee will be very interested in finding out how the audit structure will work. There seem to be an awful lot of gaps, and you seem to be in the same situation of uncertainty that we are in at the moment.

Public Audit Committee

Audit Scotland Strategic Priorities and Future Work Programme

Meeting date: 2 September 2021

Colin Beattie

Perhaps we can follow that up, convener.

Public Audit Committee

Audit Scotland Strategic Priorities and Future Work Programme

Meeting date: 2 September 2021

Colin Beattie

On a slightly different issue, I am guessing that Covid-19 has kicked the national performance framework into the long grass with regard to measuring outcomes and so on. In your submission, you talk about

“financial pressures”

that are having

“an impact”

on the performance of

“some public services”

and the impact on delivering the national outcomes. Given the comprehensive impact of Covid-19, that is probably not surprising, but can you give us a bit more background on that?

Public Audit Committee

Audit Scotland Strategic Priorities and Future Work Programme

Meeting date: 2 September 2021

Colin Beattie

If there is some clarity somewhere down the line, are you ready to carry out any additional work that might be necessary? That, of course, assumes that you will have a role and that there will be some function in Scotland in that respect.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Colin Beattie

That would be helpful. The second topic that I will talk about is labour shortages; perhaps they are part and parcel of the supply chain difficulties. We have all seen media reports that we are 100,000 truck drivers short and that 2,000 are leaving the trade every week with only 1,000 being recruited. I cannot guarantee those figures from the media; maybe Dave Moxham has something to say on the topic.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Colin Beattie

Can Rose Marley tell us about the trade environment and how skills shortages and supply chain difficulties are impacting it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Colin Beattie

Is there anything that the Scottish Government can do, either immediately or in the long term, to create better resilience in supply chains? Is it completely outwith our control? Is there nothing we can do? Are the levers to make the decisions all in the hands of the UK Government? Perhaps I can bring Barry McCulloch back in on that.