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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Colin Beattie

Okay. Martin—would you like to comment? Bear in mind that nobody likes to pay taxes—this is a question of how we collect the taxes—and that Governments everywhere are under pressure on their revenues.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Colin Beattie

Can I ask Maxine Smedley how non-domestic rates should be reformed? If that is the correct route to go down, how would you see it happening? There are obviously difficulties in having an turnover tax in relation to retail. Equally, a lot of people would argue that a property-based tax of some form is still the fairest. Maxine, how do you see it going?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Colin Beattie

Paul, do you want to quickly comment on that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 27 April 2022

Colin Beattie

Is that across the UK or just in Scotland?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Colin Beattie

The ferries issues first came about as a result of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s report of 9 December 2020, in which it asked you to carry out your investigation. I presume that that is what triggered your investigation at that time. Is that correct?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Colin Beattie

But the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s conclusions have serious implications and surely need to be addressed. If there has been such contractor failure, it has contributed massively to the costs and delays in the project.

Public Audit Committee

“Social care briefing”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Colin Beattie

Very briefly, because I am conscious of time, paragraph 21 of the briefing refers to the issues between partner organisations and the model of governance being overcomplicated. That is not new; those integration authorities have been in place for some time. Donna Bell said that we have been learning from other integration initiatives by the police and so on. Again, I say that there seems to be very little evidence of that coming through in the Auditor General’s briefing as at January 2022, when the briefing was produced. I am hearing a lot of good words, but I do not see the evidence, although I hope that we will see it in the future. Does anyone want to say anything further on the integration authorities?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Colin Beattie

In effect, your report has not addressed the impact of contractor failure—I do not see that in your report. The Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee certainly raised the flag, so I would have thought that it would have been a priority to look at that issue. It is our public money that has been paid out to the company and, according to the evidence that has been given to this committee, it has not been paid out in the manner that it should have been. It has been paid out by CMAL, on the advice of its lawyers, according to the contract.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Colin Beattie

Some very strong statements are made in the report, most particularly in paragraph 160, which says that

“there is strong evidence that the contractor deliberately proceeded to construct specific sections of the vessel either out of sequence or not according to the proper specification purely as a means of triggering milestone payments on the contract.”

Evidence is given in paragraph 157 that work was carried out

“either incorrectly or out of sequence purely in order to trigger payments against the contract”.

Interestingly, too, paragraph 158 cites evidence that

“invoices presented were rejected on the basis they related to other projects”.

Given the committee’s evidence, it seems clear that it had great concerns about the contractor.

Paragraph 153 also highlights evidence that CMAL’s lawyers “advised” that it

“had to make the payments”—[Official Report, Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee, 11 March 2020; c 50.]

that were called for, because that was in the contract and it did not want to break the contract. Moreover, on subcontractors, paragraph 154 cites the statement that

“Ferguson’s deliberately slowed down some of that subcontracting.”—[Official Report, Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee, 5 February 2020; c 11.]

Maybe I have missed something, but I do not see anything in your report that addresses that issue directly. After all, this is very serious indeed. If the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s conclusion is correct, the question, then, is: what action needs to be taken?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 21 April 2022

Colin Beattie

My simple question to you is: where did all the money that was paid in go? What was it spent on? It was not in the yard when the yard was nationalised.