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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Colin Beattie

Given that councils have said that demand will continue to increase—which is worrying, although they do not say at what rate—do they have a pipeline that they can look back at to see what sort of volumes will be coming down towards them? They must have something, otherwise they would not be saying that demand was going to continue to increase.

Public Audit Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Colin Beattie

I want to flip back to my previous question on the financial and resource pressures on councils. Do we have any idea how much it actually costs to run a tribunal?

Public Audit Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Colin Beattie

I suppose that the bottom line that I am trying to get to is this: is it actually cheaper, in all senses, to go down the mediation route rather than to go to tribunal? I am talking not just about the financial and resource costs for the council, but about the outcomes for the people who follow such a route.

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Public Audit Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Colin Beattie

I want to move on to a different aspect—the additional support needs tribunal. In paragraphs 42 to 44 of your briefing, you highlight that

“the number of parents and young people making applications to the Additional Support Needs Tribunal ... has increased by two-thirds”

between 2019-20 and 2023-24. That is a huge increase. It might be reflective of the increase in the number of people receiving ASL and disputes coming from that, but it is still a significant rise. What are the main factors that have contributed to that increase? After all, it must have had an impact on the financial resources of individual councils. How has that situation come about?

Public Audit Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Colin Beattie

Is this another case in which the data is collected differently by different local authorities, with the result that you cannot compare it and see whether you have a list of the additional support needs for one pupil, or is it simply the case that it is not done in some places?

Public Audit Committee

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Colin Beattie

But there must come a point at which there is a plateau. Unless demand hits 100 per cent, there must be a plateau somewhere at which it starts to level off.

Public Audit Committee

“Fiscal sustainability and public reform in Scotland”

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Colin Beattie

Is that common or normal?

Public Audit Committee

“Fiscal sustainability and public reform in Scotland”

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Colin Beattie

Thank you.

Public Audit Committee

“Fiscal sustainability and public reform in Scotland”

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Colin Beattie

Could you confirm that you accept the Auditor General’s assertion that a more radical approach is needed?

Public Audit Committee

“Fiscal sustainability and public reform in Scotland”

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Colin Beattie

I will leave the concept of radical to float out there for a bit and I will move on.

In the process of developing the 2024-25 Scottish budget, not a single portfolio accountable officer could provide an assurance that they would be able to fund their existing commitments with the initial allocations. That situation was eventually sorted out, but is it not fairly unique that not a single accountable officer was able to provide that assurance in the first instance?