The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Colin Beattie
First, I want to go back to the intervention that I made earlier about the smelter, just for clarification in my mind. You are relying on a 2019 book value to cover the Scottish Government’s potential liability. Book value is not necessarily market value and it is certainly not forced sale value. Normally, as a matter of prudence, when the Scottish Government is in the position of a lender and, if you like, a guarantor, it would look at forced sale value to ensure that, in the worst case, it would be covered. Has that forced sale value been calculated? If so, does it still cover the potential liability of the Scottish Government?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Colin Beattie
Okay. I was taking the book value as the book value, but you are saying that there is a bit more behind it. Nevertheless, the important thing is the forced sale value, to ensure that we have cover.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Colin Beattie
Clearly, the issue is that book value, and to an extent market value, will assume that the smelter is a going concern, and it will be valued accordingly, whereas the forced sale value will simply be the value of the land and buildings but without the business attached. That is the critical value to ensure that we have cover.
I will move on—
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Colin Beattie
How much has the Scottish Government actually recovered with regard to fraudulent payments and payments made in error? Do we have a figure for that?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Colin Beattie
Data is always king. Getting data, including in the right format and so on, is always a problem—that problem comes before the committee all the time. It does not seem difficult to get data relating to this issue. I would have hoped that the Government would have plans to report fraud and error, and could report on the amounts recovered. That seems pretty basic to me.
I have a final question to wind up. What lessons have we learned in relation to not only fraud and error but the processes that have been put in place? Have we learned anything from the situation?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Colin Beattie
The committee would certainly be interested in a bit more data around what has happened in terms of recovery and so on. Looking at the big figures south of the border niggles me—I wonder whether we are missing something.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Colin Beattie
That is true, but I would be surprised if the external auditors did not have a role in providing the information that the board needed to enable it to comply with whatever was required in relation to the assets.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Colin Beattie
Looking at the big picture, is there a governance issue?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Colin Beattie
I would be very pleased if we have managed to keep fraud down to this level. I just have a niggling worry.
Colin, you partly answered my next question when you talked about controls, counter-fraud checklists and so on. I was going to ask you about the action that the Scottish Government has been taking to reduce and manage error and fraud, and perhaps you can give us a bit more detail on that.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 24 February 2022
Colin Beattie
I am a bit concerned that we do not seem to have a grip on recovery. Is that not quite important? You are making estimates of how much the fraud and errors amount to, but you have no idea about recovery. I would have thought it a simple matter of calling the councils and getting the figures from them.