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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 December 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

Do you want me to carry on, convener?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

So, as far as you recollect, that was never discussed.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

Some of the terminology has been a bit confusing. To continue on that, one fairly important document was Transport Scotland’s submission to ministers of 8 October 2015. Do you consider that that made a clear case for awarding the contract to FMEL?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

So, as far as you were concerned, it was not strange that the minister signed off, based on the information that he was given.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

I will probably cover a little bit of ground that others have covered but from a different angle. In your submission of 24 June 2022, you state:

“I do not think there was ever any suggestion of CMAL requesting a written Ministerial authority”.

Would it have been you who would have advised CMAL if a written ministerial authority was required?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

So, as far as you are concerned, the decision on the contract award was down to CMAL—at the end of the day, it was CMAL’s decision.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

In your personal case, did you have any communication directly with Mr McColl during the procurement process?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

It is well known that there were disputes between CMAL and FMEL, which seem to have been fairly extreme. What discussions did you have with other ministers, and what actions did you explore, to try to resolve the dispute and bring the companies together? Mediation did not go anywhere.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

Mr McColl said that you had advised him privately that the CMAL board would resign if you interfered in its proceedings. Do you recall that conversation?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

You said that you found some governance arrangements to be a barrier to resolving the dispute. Can you give us a little more information on that?