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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Was there nothing specifically unusual in taking legal advice as to whether you were obliged to pay the milestone payments?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Colin Beattie

That is explained in the other papers. Why, then, were the ships not 85 per cent built?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Can I check that that was CMAL’s decision?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Surely there must be some linkage between these significant milestones that trigger the payments and the quality of what has been done. It cannot just be to do with checking the invoices and so forth. Was there quality control in there? If there was, why was that not evident at the point of nationalisation?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Colin Beattie

At what point did you identify that catastrophic failure of management?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Colin Beattie

Can you give an example—

Public Audit Committee

Major Capital Projects

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Colin Beattie

It appears to me that the design ticks the boxes for most people, which makes it even less understandable that organisations have been getting whipped up about it.

Talking about net zero and environmental sustainability, I do not think that this project has any attachment covering that. Is it intended to develop that later?

Public Audit Committee

Major Capital Projects

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Colin Beattie

It is a fairly obvious one, and it probably applies to all contracts. There has been an estimate of £90 million to £120 million for this project. Inflation is galloping and we are talking about the project not being finished until perhaps 2028—which, to me, is a long time away from 2008, which is when it was first identified as being desirable. High inflation is probably going to be with us for some time. How are you going to manage that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Colin Beattie

I am talking about any milestone payment.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 30 June 2022

Colin Beattie

For clarification, which year was that?