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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

However, it does not have direct responsibility for the day-to-day running and oversight of your office.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

It sounds as if there is an awful lot that has not yet been clarified. It seems to me that, without that clarification, there could be circumstances in which we end up having problems again.

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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

There still seems to be a lot of vagueness about where the support, oversight and governance really are. Are you having discussions with the SPCB to seek clarification on that? Everything that I hear suggests that the SPCB is the closest thing that you have to a governing body. Would you agree?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

If there were red flags, would you expect the SPCB to be the organisation that would pick those up and do something about them?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

As far as this committee is concerned, we come in at the end of a problem, if you like. I am asking about who is alert to the red flags that you talked about. Who can intervene and do something about it? At the moment, from what I hear, that is not clear. More work needs to be done on that, and I am sure that the committee will follow that through.

We are talking about governance and so on. You have working relationships with the Standards Commission for Scotland and the SPCB, and you mentioned being primarily involved with two other committees of the Scottish Parliament. Which are those two committees?

Public Audit Committee

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

I am glad that you used the term “public sector” because, although I focused on colleges and the NHS, issues around which have come before us in big numbers, there is the wider public sector. Is there anything on your radar that would pull everything together so that we could see the whole public sector liability in that regard? That is probably ambitious.

Public Audit Committee

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

I will move quickly to my questions on digital exclusion, which is an important issue in my constituency. About five years ago, the Office of Communications told me that 34 per cent of adults in my constituency did not have access to the internet or smartphones, which was an extraordinarily high amount. I hope that that has improved since then, although I do not have a figure.

It is really important that that be looked at. You state that you are taking a human rights-based approach to digital exclusion. What does that mean?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

I have one last quick question. You mentioned the Standards Commission and the statutory directions, which are still in place. What is the latest position on compliance with those statutory directions?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

Have you had any discussions with the commission as to how long those directions might be in place?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

We have always been a wee bit vague as to how much authority the SPCB has over you. Yours is an independent function. Can you define the areas in which the SPCB exerts governance over your office and the ways in which it supports your office, which it funds? Where could that be improved? Is the SPCB the major governing body that you refer to?