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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

I will probably cover a little bit of ground that others have covered but from a different angle. In your submission of 24 June 2022, you state:

“I do not think there was ever any suggestion of CMAL requesting a written Ministerial authority”.

Would it have been you who would have advised CMAL if a written ministerial authority was required?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

So, as far as you are concerned, the decision on the contract award was down to CMAL—at the end of the day, it was CMAL’s decision.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

In your personal case, did you have any communication directly with Mr McColl during the procurement process?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

It is well known that there were disputes between CMAL and FMEL, which seem to have been fairly extreme. What discussions did you have with other ministers, and what actions did you explore, to try to resolve the dispute and bring the companies together? Mediation did not go anywhere.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

Mr McColl said that you had advised him privately that the CMAL board would resign if you interfered in its proceedings. Do you recall that conversation?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

You said that you found some governance arrangements to be a barrier to resolving the dispute. Can you give us a little more information on that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

Yes. One of the key points here is that the decision was taken to nationalise the company but full due diligence does not seem to have been carried out, as would normally be the case. Will you comment on the reason for that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

My memory is that the accountable officer—I cannot remember his name—said that only partial due diligence could be carried out. I think that it was said that that was partly due to time and the availability of information.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

Given that the decision was taken without a full understanding of the costs and challenges in the company, and in the light of subsequent issues and given its history, do you still think that it was the right thing to do?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 8 September 2022

Colin Beattie

Did they do so?