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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Colin Beattie

The Auditor General’s report says:

“By May 2019, the relationship between CMAL and FMEL had broken down completely.”

The report goes on to say that FMEL had said that it was going to have

“significant redundancies and CMAL notified Scottish ministers of its intention to cancel the contract for vessel 801 and make a call on the surety bond”.

Was that ever done? Did CMAL ever do that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Colin Beattie

Continuing that aspect, I note that one of the factors that exacerbated the staged payments issues was the relationship between CMAL and FMEL, which seems to have deteriorated at an early point to the extent that, we understand, CMAL could not get access to the yard.

Although there was discussion about the possibility of a dispute resolution mechanism, it never happened. CMAL received legal advice that it must continue making the staged payments despite the fact that it had no sight of what was happening. That was obviously escalated up the line from CMAL. To what extent were you aware that it was discussed with ministers? Did you have any sight of those issues? What did ministers say about resolving the dispute, which involved a major issue?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Colin Beattie

When Mr McColl appeared in front of the committee, he made the comment that the way that the milestone payments were made was in accordance with normal shipbuilding practice. We do not have the expert opinion here to guide us as to whether that is the case, but it seems extraordinary that things can be done out of sequence and still qualify for payment when the bits between them have not been done.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “New vessels for the Clyde and Hebrides: Arrangements to deliver vessels 801 and 802”

Meeting date: 4 November 2022

Colin Beattie

Correct.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Colin Beattie

We have heard a fair bit about the cost of doing business and issues around labour shortages. On the other side of the coin are the consumers—the people buying the products. The Scottish and UK Governments have made a number of policy pronouncements—although I am not sure that we can rely on the current situation as far as UK policy pronouncements are concerned. It is likely that there will be changes there. How concerned are you about the longer-term outlook for consumer spending and demand for goods? I would like Paul Sheerin to start, given that he was remarkably cheery about the health of the order books.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Colin Beattie

We have heard a relatively optimistic view there, but when we come down to it, the fact is that the average man on the street is facing rising food costs, exponential increases in the cost of energy and shrinking disposable income. That is bound to have an impact throughout the economy. Ian, how concerned are you about consumer demand?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Colin Beattie

Another optimistic person! How about you, Euan?

Public Audit Committee

“Tackling child poverty”

Meeting date: 6 October 2022

Colin Beattie

It is helpful. Paragraphs 59 to 62 of the briefing paper outline that it is not always clear how the £3.3 billion was spent on tackling child poverty between 2018-19 and 2021-22. The briefing recommends that

“The Scottish Government should consider how to develop its understanding of the reach of universal spending and the extent to which low-income households are benefiting.”

To what extent is it a cause for concern that £3.3 billion has been spent on tackling child poverty, yet it is not entirely clear how that spending has impacted on child poverty outcomes? The Scottish Government has mentioned that it has mitigated a possible increase in child poverty, but we would like to see the trajectory on child poverty go the other way.

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Relationships with Public Bodies (Progress Review)

Meeting date: 6 October 2022

Colin Beattie

If I, simplistically, compared today with a year ago, where would I see improvements?

Public Audit Committee

Scottish Government Relationships with Public Bodies (Progress Review)

Meeting date: 6 October 2022

Colin Beattie

We are looking at the review in the context of many years of governance failures in various bodies, of which sponsorship was a significant element. That is an area of real concern.

In the area of capacity and capability, I was alarmed that the report highlights that there is a significant churn in staffing, that many staff who are in sponsorship at the moment are inexperienced and that many posts are vacant. Whatever good ideas you have about going forward, until those posts are filled and you have trained people who understand sponsorship and can take part in the governance process of those bodies, you are going nowhere.

The report was written some months ago. What is the position now? How significant a capability challenge do you have at the moment because of the deficiencies that the report highlights?