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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 February 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

I want to explore one or two areas, the first of which is on deferred entry to primary 1 and paragraph 20 of the Audit Scotland report. Ten councils were running a pilot and a pilot evaluation report on access to funded early learning and childcare for eligible children who defer entry to primary 1 was published in June. What action is the Scottish Government taking in response to that report?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

We have to remember that the Auditor General’s report makes it clear that we do not have national data on the demand for childcare, which to me seems a very basic piece of data that should be collected. If it is being collected locally to suit local conditions, that is fine, but how do you collate that and make sense of it nationally? That is clearly not happening. However positively you may put this, at the end of the day, the national data is not there.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

Without information on demand, you will not be able to do workforce planning, proper budgeting and so on, and that is clearly what the comments in the report are aimed at. When do you expect to have national data on the demand for childcare?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

How are you listening to the views of the child?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

Once again, is that engagement common across all council areas?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

You have said that you are already collecting the views of children through local authorities, that that is done on a common basis and that the information is then fed to you nationally. How is it fed to you nationally? How do you evaluate what lands on your desk to ensure that those views are taken into consideration when policy is decided?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

Okay. Thank you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

What I am interested in finding out is how children are able to input into Government policy.

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

It is nice to hear something positive.

I will move on to something that is less positive: data. In this committee, we often hear that there is inadequate data or no data, and this issue is no different. Paragraph 71 of the report talks about a lack of data on the demand for childcare. It seems pretty basic that you would want those statistics to guide where you are investing. What work is being undertaken to address the lack of national data for funded and non-funded ELC?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Early Learning and Childcare: Progress on delivery of the 1,140 hours expansion”

Meeting date: 5 October 2023

Colin Beattie

The councils are collecting all this data, but are they using a common process and common datasets so that they are comparable and you can collate them nationally?