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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 February 2026
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Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Colin Beattie

Thank you. Meriem Timizar, can you comment on the advantages and disadvantages of in-person and remote access?

Public Audit Committee

Section 23 Report: “Adult mental health”

Meeting date: 9 November 2023

Colin Beattie

Finally, Shari, do you have any views on this?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Colin Beattie

I am looking primarily at paragraphs 17, 18 and 19 of the briefing paper. Paragraph 19 states:

“There have been no new private-financed projects since 2018 and the Scottish Government has no immediate plans to fund infrastructure in this way.”

However, as has been mentioned, the capital budget has been cut, and I believe that it is anticipated that it might be cut again this year. That will put a lot of pressure on the Government in relation to how it delivers projects.

Private finance is obviously more expensive, especially at the moment. Despite the greater cost of private finance, the briefing paper states that the Scottish Government

“cannot rule out using alternative financing arrangements to deliver investment beyond its capital budget.”

Does that give you any cause for concern?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Colin Beattie

Other than that general comment, there is no indication that the Government is going to go down that road.

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Colin Beattie

Paragraphs 30 to 32 of the briefing paper talk about the number of private finance contracts in Scotland. The paper says that there are 130 with a capital value of £9 billion. You have also highlighted the point that 22 PFI contracts with a value of £900 million will end by 2030. There is quite a difference in the PFI contracts and what happens at the end of them, such as whether there is a purchase agreement.

Some of those 130 contracts will still have a life of 20 years or so in them and others will have rather less. They are individual contracts, but what is behind them? For example, a school might be built with a PFI contract, but my understanding is that there was a degree of bundling at some points. Are any of those 130 contracts bundled contracts that would have greater value and therefore greater risk when they come to maturity?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Colin Beattie

Do we have any risk analysis of those individual projects? The financial risk involved at the end of the project will be different for all of them.

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Colin Beattie

You said that the Scottish Futures Trust is helping those public bodies—local authorities or whatever—to manage the transition at the end of the contracts. You also said that 22 PFI contracts are coming up. Have you identified any particular years in which a larger number of those contracts might be coming up? Obviously, that will lead to greater risk. Indeed, is there any particular part or area of Scotland that is particularly at risk?

Public Audit Committee

“Investing in Scotland’s infrastructure”

Meeting date: 2 November 2023

Colin Beattie

We have heard the frightening figures on backlog maintenance, but how much of that would be dealt with by the new builds that are in the pipeline? Obviously, there is a timing issue but, if you are going to build a new building—a new hospital or whatever—the old one’s backlog maintenance goes out the picture.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Colin Beattie

I am going to ask you a question about that, so if you leave it for the moment, that would be great.

Public Audit Committee

“Scotland’s colleges 2023”

Meeting date: 26 October 2023

Colin Beattie

It all sounds like a bit of déjà vu. Have we not been through all this before, over the years? I have sat on this committee now for 13 years. Every time colleges come up, the maintenance backlog comes up and someone will prioritise doing some assessment for allocating funds for the most urgent work, and all the rest of it. It sounds as if the situation is exactly the same, again.