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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 7 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Colin Beattie

I am looking at a chart from one of my local councils, to which I will refer when talking about definitions, rather than the actual figures, interesting though they are. I am looking at a whole spectrum of categories that the council uses in data collection. Given the breadth of all those, is it possible to train a teacher to be able to cover all those points? They include: dyslexia, English as an additional language, family issues, hearing impairment, interrupted learning, learning disabilities and mental health problems. That is a lot for a school to deal with.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Colin Beattie

I suppose that it is worth recognising that it is not just a small minority of ASL pupils who can be disruptive. Those who do not receive ASL can sometimes be a bit disruptive, too.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Colin Beattie

There are other things that can affect the funding, such as whether the need is long term or short term. All those need different resources.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Colin Beattie

You might have all the information at local authority level, but does the Scottish Government not have a role here, too, given that it is allocating the funding at the end of the day, and it needs to know that that funding is going to the right place? How can the Scottish Government be absolutely sure that the funding is going to the right place, and in the right quantity, if we do not have disaggregated figures?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Additional Support for Learning

Meeting date: 7 May 2025

Colin Beattie

Is there any assurance that the needs of those pupils who receive ASL are actually being met? The Scottish Government has a policy of inclusivity, which is quite right, but how do we evaluate whether the ASL pupils’ needs are being met and that we have the best possible outcomes?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Colin Beattie

I look forward to seeing the report.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Colin Beattie

I think that the document is good and quite strong overall, and it picks up on a lot of areas that the committee will be interested in. I will ask about one or two of those.

When the committee has discussed integration authorities with you in the past, we have always been concerned about the funding for them in respect of staffing and the commitment behind that, and we have heard anecdotal evidence that points to a possible unwillingness on the part of the NHS to pay its share into the IJBs. Can you tell us a bit more about the work that you are planning to do on the financing and performance of the IJBs?

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Colin Beattie

As Graham Simpson has mentioned, I have an interest in my own area in the Musselburgh flood protection scheme—I do not know whether you have looked at that at all. It was a relatively small scheme that is now, depending on how many options are taken, costing well over £100 million, and Government finance appears to be uncertain, or at best indicative.

The scheme has taken about three years to get to where it is, mainly as a result of objections that were raised locally. The whole process has been quite byzantine in its complexity when it comes to things progressing through the system—and, indeed, has been quite controversial, in that interested third parties have been part of the decision-making process. That has been subject to objections, too. I do not know whether you have looked at the scheme, but it is certainly one of the more complicated ones on the go at the moment, both financially and technically.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Colin Beattie

I will move on slightly. You are going to produce a briefing on education and skills reform, which will help to inform, or to provide scoping for, audit work after the election. I have a specific question about colleges in that regard, because they have been very much in the news for a long time, particularly with regard to their fiscal sustainability, but I noticed that, in your plans, you talk about publishing a briefing in October this year. A briefing is not an audit, and yet the colleges are such an important element of what we are looking at. Is there a possibility of upgrading the briefing in order to take a more comprehensive approach to looking at colleges?

In previous parliamentary sessions, we have had a very comprehensive audit across the whole span of colleges, including all the link-ups between colleges and information on how they are all doing. Rather than seeing them one by one, we saw them altogether and could therefore understand the whole issue around colleges and what they face, because one size does not fit all and not all colleges are in the same state.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 April 2025

Colin Beattie

According to your overview, you expect to publish that report in November 2025.