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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 31 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition (Grangemouth Area)

Meeting date: 22 February 2023

Colin Beattie

So we do not actually have a figure for the new jobs that will, we hope, be created as a direct result of the transition to net zero.

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2021/22”

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Colin Beattie

Continuing on deductions from revenue, in paragraph 1.15 of your report, you note that HMRC has used

“historical data for the UK as a whole to determine patterns of uncollected liabilities and then apportioned an amount relating to Scottish taxpayers. HMRC calculated this to be £97 million”.

In paragraph 1.16, the report refers to gift aid—which is not insignificant. It says that HMRC calculated the deductions

“by estimating the Scottish share of ... tax relief claimed across the UK using historical data. HMRC calculated the Gift Aid deduction to be £114 million for 2020-21 and pension contributions to be £155 million.”

However, it is unclear to me what the pattern across the UK is. It is not really the same. It becomes one amorphous figure when we put it all together, but, when we try to separate things out, take one part and compare it with the other, we find that it cannot be accurate. There must be a margin for error here.

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2021/22”

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Colin Beattie

Over a number of years, I have been fairly critical of the quality of information on the Scottish rate of income tax and all the estimates and so on that are around it.

Last year, I drew up a list of 32 areas in which there were estimates—or, more accurately, guesstimates—of what the figures might be. I have not yet had time to do the same with the report that is before us, but I will do so. Looking at it, though, I can see clear evidence that the separate Scottish figures are inadequate to enable an accurate calculation of the tax. At times, there is conflation with UK figures because separate Scottish figures are not available, yet the mix of taxpayers in Scotland is quite different from that in the rest of the UK—particularly when we take London into account, which is hugely distorting. Are the figures that we have on Scottish tax just fantasy?

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2021/22”

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Colin Beattie

However, as the auditor, you would have a view on that.

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2021/22”

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Colin Beattie

However, paragraph 17 says that

“HMRC ... cannot easily track and monitor compliance activity in Scotland and this affects its ability to collect performance data about the extent of Scottish non-compliance”.

Without data, it is not really possible to project accurately into the future.

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2021/22”

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Colin Beattie

If I go through the report and compare what I regard as anomalies with what I took out last year, will I see any improvement?

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2021/22”

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Colin Beattie

I move to paragraph 1.5 of part 1, which mentions

“The reduction in Scottish income tax outturn arising from these adjustments”,

which are estimates for tax due, uncollected amounts and tax reliefs. It goes on to say:

“In some areas of the calculation, HMRC does not have data available in sufficient detail to identify income tax liabilities, reliefs or other adjustments relating to individual taxpayers.”

Again, HMRC is using UK figures to work out some sort of calculation, but the pattern of Scottish taxpayers—versus those in the rest of the UK—is very different, as far as the information that we have seen here is concerned. How accurate can that estimate be? What kind of distortion comes in there?

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2021/22”

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Colin Beattie

There are one or two areas that I would like to examine more closely. Again, though, there are an awful lot of estimates in here that must distort the final figure.

Paragraph 15 of the NAO report states:

“There are no risks identified in the Scottish SPR which are specific to Scotland as HMRC assesses that compliance risk in Scotland is consistent with the rest of the UK.”

Given the different mix of taxpayers and so on across the rest of the UK, is that statement accurate?

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2021/22”

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Colin Beattie

In connection with the compliance yield of £280 million, paragraph 16 states that

“HMRC calculates these figures as a proportion of the equivalent UK figure, rather than ... Scotland-specific data to quantify the risks.”

That does not seem as though it could be accurate.

Public Audit Committee

“Administration of Scottish income tax 2021/22”

Meeting date: 9 February 2023

Colin Beattie

I said at the beginning that I took out 32 cases in which parts of the revenue and liabilities are estimated. The extent of the issues is such that, if you take one, it is not that big but, if you take 32, you are looking at a bigger distortion. I hope that, over a period, that will gradually reduce with experience and an understanding that there are areas to be sorted.