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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 29 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

Before I ask those questions, I want to briefly refer back to the convener’s remarks about the ferries at the beginning of the session. As you know, I have raised the possibility of an investigation on a number of occasions in the past months. I am pleased to hear that you are going to take a serious look at the committee’s recommendations and come back to us on them.

There is no pressure here, but I would find it extremely difficult to understand it if a decision was made not to carry out some sort of scrutiny, because tens of millions of pounds of public money have been involved, and people have the right to know where that money has gone. It is over to you on that decision. As I said, there is no pressure.

I do not expect a response to that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

What is unclear to me is where the support is for you in terms of governance and the oversight that you are talking about. Clearly, it failed previously. The committee is trying to ascertain the possibilities of it failing again down the line—not necessarily now, but in five or 10 years. Are there adequate red flags, as you call them, that somebody could pick up and respond to?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

I will talk about governance. I refer you to page 4 and exhibit 1 of the Audit Scotland report, which gives a wee graph on your relationship with stakeholders. The report says that the auditor has commented that

“issues remain where the SPCB and the Commissioner’s Office need ‘to work together to address some of the specific governance issues identified’”.

Will you give an update on what is happening in that regard, what discussions you are having and what governance issues have been of most concern and perhaps been resolved?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

It then produces a report on that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

So it is currently an open-ended arrangement.

Public Audit Committee

Auditor General for Scotland (Work Programme)

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

You may tell me if I am wrong, but I understand that the Auditor General has already arranged that the paperwork that is sitting at Ferguson’s has been secured, although it is not in great shape.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

Audit Scotland comes in and does an audit.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

However, it does not have direct responsibility for the day-to-day running and oversight of your office.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

It sounds as if there is an awful lot that has not yet been clarified. It seems to me that, without that clarification, there could be circumstances in which we end up having problems again.

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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2021/22 audit of the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland”

Meeting date: 30 March 2023

Colin Beattie

There still seems to be a lot of vagueness about where the support, oversight and governance really are. Are you having discussions with the SPCB to seek clarification on that? Everything that I hear suggests that the SPCB is the closest thing that you have to a governing body. Would you agree?