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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 February 2026
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Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Colin Beattie

The whole public sector is under pressure cost-wise. Is it not true that the whole-life costing approach is less adhered to simply because of the short-term need to save money, stay within budget and reduce costs? Does that not put a lot of pressure on the adoption of whole-life costing?

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Colin Beattie

Are there any barriers to that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Colin Beattie

The process would rely, therefore, on some kind of knowledge base that would be applied to a product or service. Is that knowledge systemic? Does that mean relying on the people in the area of procurement to have that knowledge? Do they keep files? How do they do it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Colin Beattie

I want to cover a slightly different issue. We have heard about people’s experiences of framework contracts and lotting. How much of a challenge is it for you to make such opportunities accessible to smaller regionally focused firms, while at the same time sharing the risk and ensuring good value? I will come back to Lynette Robertson on that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Colin Beattie

Mention has been made of procurement as a vehicle for managing or even reducing costs. We have heard that goods and services that cost more up front might offer better value for money over a longer period. To what extent are you able to make decisions that are informed by calculating the whole-life value of the product or service that is being provided? Are there any barriers to that? Perhaps Gordon Beattie could comment on that first.

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Colin Beattie

I turn to the slightly different subject of framework contracts and lotting, which we have heard much about. What has your experience been? How much of a challenge is it to make opportunities accessible to smaller and perhaps regionally focused firms, while sharing risk and ensuring good value, which is quite tough? I will go to Gordon Beattie to answer for the NHS.

Economy and Fair Work Committee 6 March 2024

Procurement Reform (Scotland) Act 2014 (Post-legislative Scrutiny)

Meeting date: 6 March 2024

Colin Beattie

Witnesses have been telling us how complex the procurement process is and how difficult it is to access. How do you tackle that? I am thinking particularly about small companies that do not have the resources or experience to put together complex documents.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

I was going to ask a question about improving training for board members. Having read the Auditor General’s report and the corporate governance review, frankly, I think that the level of incompetence in the board is breathtaking. There is no challenge and very little scrutiny and there seems to be no understanding of proper governance. To me, an induction for board members is an induction, rather than training. Board members should be chosen for the skills that they have and the expertise that they can bring to the board, and not because they come in needing training.

Is there a problem with our recruitment process for non-executive directors? This is not the first time that the committee has looked at problems that have arisen in the public sector and found at least some issues with the way in which non-execs have approached a situation. I am not blaming the board solely—there are other issues—but I am focusing on the board. Is there a problem with our recruitment process?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

Again, when it comes to the board, I would like some reassurance that proper scrutiny and challenge are in place, because—hopefully—we have learned through all the deficiencies that have been thrown up both in the audit and in the corporate governance review. What sort of reassurance can we have that those deficiencies have been rectified?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 29 February 2024

Colin Beattie

My understanding, based on evidence that we have taken in other meetings, is that each NHS board has unique characteristics because of the way in which it has developed, and that there is a need for each board to provide some familiarisation for directors coming in. That is normal: it is not unique to the NHS. Non-executive directors are appointed to the boards of many different types of private and public organisation.

Let me move on.