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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Colin Beattie

Yes.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Colin Beattie

It would be interesting to see whether it is in the same ball park as the percentage for other organisations.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Colin Beattie

The issues that NHS Forth Valley faces are not dissimilar to those that are faced by other NHS boards, with regard to the difficulty in identifying recurring cost savings.

However, the level of non-recurring savings is very high, at 69 per cent, as a proportion of the £29.3 million in efficiency savings in 2022-23. That is a huge chunk, which means that the board has to identify that amount again the following year. What steps is the board taking to address that problem? It is currently only rolling up the problem into the future—it is not resolving it.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Colin Beattie

I suppose that I have to ask: is that achievable?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Colin Beattie

Indeed. Has it been escalated?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Colin Beattie

There is a target for all NHS boards to deliver 3 per cent recurring savings. Is that being addressed as a separate specific item, or is it just part of the whole in terms of meeting the deficit?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Colin Beattie

The report says:

“The recurring funding gap associated with the ... implementation of the Primary Care Improvement Plan”

will be a risk

“if not addressed by the Scottish Government.”

What is the funding gap in monetary terms? What does the Government need to do to address that gap?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Colin Beattie

Would you be able to provide that information?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Colin Beattie

Auditor General, before I come to questions, from my perspective, this report has a different feel to it from other reports that you have produced. Some of the detail that is normally in your reports is not there. You talk about issues around governance, leadership and culture, and there is some explanation of that, but the report does not seem to go into the depth that is normally there. I am still sitting here thinking, “What has happened with leadership? Where is that demonstrably failing?” It is possible to infer a little from some of the things that are in the report, but there is nothing specific.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of NHS Forth Valley”

Meeting date: 25 January 2024

Colin Beattie

From the committee’s point of view, I am sure that every member simply wants to get a full understanding of the detail behind the comments that are made, so that we can make our own judgments.

I turn to financial sustainability. Paragraph 19 of the report says that, despite the savings of £25 million in 2023-24, there is a £15.6 million residual deficit. Can you tell us more about that deficit and what the short and long-term impacts will be if it is not addressed properly?