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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 19 July 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Colin Beattie

I have one last question. Previously, reference has been made to reducing planned maintenance to make savings. That, of course, is really just pushing the problem into the future. Are you satisfied with the programme of maintenance that is in place for the prison estate?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Colin Beattie

Who has that option?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Colin Beattie

I believe that the contract actually ends in January 2027, and tendering is expected to start in 2024. That seems an awful long way in advance, but perhaps that is how long it takes. I presume that you have seen nothing yet on what the approach will be.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Colin Beattie

Yes.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Colin Beattie

That is available, but is the Prison Service actually going to avail itself of that facility?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Colin Beattie

References to savings being made by reducing maintenance is slightly historical, in that that refers to several years ago. Is that still the case now? You can have any sort of budget, but if you are going to make savings out of that by cutting the maintenance—

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Colin Beattie

Michael, you touched on hospital appointments. I highlight paragraph 29, which says:

“705 hospital appointments were recorded as GEOAmey failures. Of these, 561 were cancelled by the escort due to resourcing issues. Eighty-six appointments did go ahead late”.

However, the report also says that we do not seem to know much about the impact of those cancellations on the prisoners or on the NHS.

The NHS is geared up to receive prisoners for hundreds of appointments that are suddenly cancelled, presumably at the very last minute. The impact on NHS efficiency—we can look at NHS Forth Valley, for example—is not insignificant. Are there any plans to assess the overall impact of those delayed and cancelled NHS appointments, both on the health of the prisoners and on the NHS?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Colin Beattie

I think that it probably is.

To move on from staffing levels, I note that the contract is, obviously, going to be retendered. What steps are the SPS and its partners taking to ensure that the contract will take account of all the external factors that are believed to be impacting on the current contract? In other words, how will they ensure that we do not head down the same path again? I realise that we will not—I hope—have Covid creating a disruptive factor, but, nevertheless, I would like to know how they are approaching that.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Colin Beattie

Barlinnie is clearly a priority.

Very simplistically, we are talking about there being an underspend on the capital budget. That was the case in 2018-19. I presume that the underspends are not real underspends—they are just money that has not yet been paid out for on-going contracts and so on. Is it as simple as that?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Prison Service”

Meeting date: 1 February 2024

Colin Beattie

Is there a timescale for that?