The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
All Official Reports of public meetings of committees.
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Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Shirley-Anne Somerville
The figure is accurate, but to describe it as a black hole and saying that the Scottish Government is not looking to recover some of it is inaccurate. I have no issue with the figure; I have an issue with the interpretation that that somehow meant that the Scottish Government was just going to leave that to one side and not do anything about it.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Shirley-Anne Somerville
I again point to the fact that we need to look at two aspects of the increases in the level of social security expenditure. One aspect is down to changes that are happening across the UK and will therefore be covered by BGA, and the other is the additional investment that we make.
I appreciate that, just because we get the money in from social security block grant adjustments, it does not necessarily have to be spent on social security. It is up to the Scottish Government to consider entirely different aspects around that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Shirley-Anne Somerville
My second point is that the increase in expenditure is not due to any changes to eligibility that the Scottish Government is bringing in. It is about the eligibility that is currently in the system, which has been passed by this Parliament, and those policy decisions following through to an increase in social security expenditure.
I totally appreciate that there is, quite rightly, both in this committee and in Government, an analysis of the increasing levels of social security. Those are conscious decisions that have been taken by this Government to protect disabled people, carers and people on low incomes. The changes and the forthcoming increase are not happening because we are due to make any further changes to eligibility that Parliament has not already voted on.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Shirley-Anne Somerville
I am not trying to be obtuse, convener, but some of the cases that David Wallace is referring to are still in process, because the agency is still very young.
For example, if the agency is working through a voluntary recovery of an overpayment but that does not prove successful, it can move to the next step in the process. We will continue to see that number change.
We are always very open within the Government about looking at different approaches if something more can be done.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Shirley-Anne Somerville
Again, I go back to first principles. We always have to ensure that, if people are entitled to a benefit they get it, and if they are not entitled to that benefit they do not get it. The other way to make savings is by changing eligibility. Those are the types of decisions that we will make. When it comes to targets, I go back to the point that, if we want to see a reduction in welfare spending, we have to target people and make changes to eligibility.
The other aspect is to ensure that the system is as robust as it possibly can be. One pillar that you have mentioned is the review process. Rather than that being a process where we have to wait until its end to see whether changes can be made, if issues are identified during its initial steps we can take steps to deal with them immediately. The agency has an iterative process of learning and continuous improvement. There are also other aspects, outwith the review section, where we continuously ensure, through the directorate and the agency, that the system is as robust and efficient as it can be and we make the changes that we are able to.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Shirley-Anne Somerville
The aspects around whether there will be a saving will be dealt with by the learning that comes out of work within the agency, and the wider Government, that demonstrates that changes need to be made to policies, practices and procedures. The budget process and spending review process are exactly where those types of learning points will materialise in changes to budgets. Those will be demonstrated in the publications that will come out in due course.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Shirley-Anne Somerville
One point on which we will be happy to provide further details is the operating costs of the agency compared with, for example, those of the DWP. Those costs, which we continually challenge to ensure that the agency is as effective as possible, are very good in comparison with those of the DWP. There is no issue around the operating costs of the agency.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Shirley-Anne Somerville
I ask David Wallace to come in on that.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Shirley-Anne Somerville
I do not think that the level of social security payments is unsustainable. As a Government, we have to work out—these matters will come to Parliament to discuss and make decisions on—the choices that we will set out in our budget and in the spending review about the decisions that we have made on investing in social security. Others might wish to suggest that we should disinvest from social security and that we should take money away from people. It is fair and right for us to discuss that but, internally, the Government has discussed the importance that we attach to social security as one way of alleviating poverty and supporting disabled people and carers. Those choices will be laid bare.
I fully recognise that there is an increase in social security expenditure. One way of tackling that is to look to reduce it by making changes to eligibility. The UK Government has attempted to do that. After looking at the increases in social security expenditure, it attempted to make changes to reduce eligibility, but it has now backtracked on some of those. It is right and proper for us to discuss who should be eligible for benefits and whether we think that benefits are going to people from whom we, as a Parliament, would be comfortable taking them away.
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 16 September 2025
Shirley-Anne Somerville
I am happy to provide information on how that is not a particularly large issue.