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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 18 May 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, Mr Smyth. I know that those in the public gallery will be keen to join in and show support, but let us say that, as a committee, we understand that that is implicit.

I call Alex Cole-Hamilton. Is this your debut at the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee, Mr Cole-Hamilton?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Welcome. I invite you to address the committee.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Jackson Carlaw

I was not able to be present but, ahead of the funeral that I had to attend, I was able to watch the proceedings live and I have had an opportunity to consider the Official Report. Therefore, before I invite colleagues to make any proposals, I have two that I would like to make.

First, I would like the committee to agree to write to John Swinney MSP to draw his attention to the suggestion that was made, as a result of the evidence, about the potential shift in opinion that has happened between his period as Deputy First Minister and the current Deputy First Minister, and to ask whether he recognises, supports or understands the position that the current Deputy First Minister is taking.

Secondly, I propose that we invite Redress Scotland to come before the committee to explain its position so that, under interrogation, we can come to understand further what we believe might be done. Are members content with those two proposals? Are there any other suggestions?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Are colleagues content with that proposal?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Jackson Carlaw

PE2017 is on extending the period that specialist perinatal mental health support is made available beyond one year. The petition, which has been lodged by Margaret Reid, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to amend section 24 of Mental Health (Care and Treatment) (Scotland) Act 2003 to extend maternal mental health support beyond one year; to introduce a family liaison function at adult mental health units across all health boards; to introduce specialised perinatal community teams that meet perinatal quality network standard type 1 across all health boards; and to establish a mother and baby unit in the north-east of Scotland.

We are joined this morning by Tess White, who, we understand, has been supporting the petitioner’s pursuit of her petition. Good morning, and welcome back to the committee that you were once a member of.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Jackson Carlaw

The Scottish Government provided the committee with information back in August of last year. In that submission, the Government noted its intent to publish an initial plan on options for changes to the 2003 act by the end of 2023. Moreover, last November, the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee followed up on the recommendations from its inquiry into perinatal mental health services.

The Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport provided an update in January in which she noted that a draft service specification for perinatal mental health services was being developed and that the NHS National Services Scotland’s report on mother and baby unit provision was with the Scottish Government for consideration. The update also noted that the Scottish Government was continuing to collaborate with mother and baby units to conduct a review of the mother and baby unit family fund.

Before I ask committee members to say how they think we might proceed, I invite Tess White to address the committee.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Are we content with those suggestions? Are there any other complementary suggestions from members of the committee?

Ordinarily I would not invite suggestions from non-committee members, but if you have a suggestion for some further action, Ms White, I am sure that the committee would be happy to hear it.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Jackson Carlaw

I am sure that colleagues would be happy to include the latter and to reflect on the former.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Jackson Carlaw

To summarise, we are taking a decision in principle to close the petition, but we are deferring the taking of a formal decision until the regulations are introduced, or at least until we are told that regulations will be introduced, at which point we will either close the petition or inquire why the regulations have not been introduced.

Does that meet with members’ approval?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 17 April 2024

Jackson Carlaw

I thank the petitioner, but, for the reasons stated, I hope that they will understand the limit on how we can proceed.