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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 August 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Jackson Carlaw

That brings us to agenda item 3, which is consideration of new petitions.

I will start, as I always do before turning to the individual petitions, by saying that the committee invites our independent research body, the Scottish Parliament information centre, to contribute thoughts on the content of each new petition. We also seek a preliminary response from the Scottish Government. We do so because, historically, those were the first two things that we spent a meeting agreeing to do, and this process allows us to expedite our consideration of the petition.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Jackson Carlaw

One theme of the petition is the instruction of an independent review. The Scottish Government was unenthusiastic, but there was a general feeling in the committee that, after 20 years, it would not seem unreasonable to have an independent review. Some of the witnesses from whom we heard last week addressed the issue of a consultation process on two fronts. First, NatureScot has a vested interest in the outcome of the consultation, so it is therefore not truly independent in its analysis of what emerges.

Secondly, regarding the consultation itself, although people will come forward and contribute, it will elicit only the information that comes from those people who choose to participate in it, which is not necessarily always the complete picture. The merits of an independent review would be that somebody would be charged with proactively going out and asking questions, whether or not the issues that they asked about had been volunteered by a body of people, an individual or whoever, as a consequence of a consultation.

I am interested to know your perspective on the petition’s ask that a review be held that would look at aspects such as farming, forestry, crofting and angling, which would give Parliament and the wider public a holistic view of the success of the development of national parks and enable them to see to what extent the existing national parks have evolved from the original conception. What is your view on that aspect of the petition?

10:15  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Jackson Carlaw

In that case, I suspend the meeting to allow the witnesses and others leave.

10:22 Meeting suspended.  

10:24 On resuming—  

Reusable Water Bottles (PE1896)

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Mr Lumsden, this is your debut at the committee. We are pleased to have you here and keen to hear any contribution you might wish to put before the committee as we consider the petition.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Is he only nine? He must be older than that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Is the committee content to proceed on that basis?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Jackson Carlaw

There are two suggestions from Mr Torrance. If there are no other suggestions from the committee, are we content to agree to proceed on that basis?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Jackson Carlaw

We will keep the petition open and make those requests, and further examine the options at a later date.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Jackson Carlaw

That brings us to the end of the formal part of today’s meeting.

11:12 Meeting continued in private until 11:25.  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 13 November 2024

Jackson Carlaw

We will keep the petition open and take forward the evidence gathering as suggested this morning. We will also write to the Minister for Housing to seek responses to the points that have been made by the petitioner, and we will seek information from the UK Government. We will do all that with a view to potentially hearing from the minister in order to explore the issues in, I hope, more detail and to get some answers for the many people who have been affected by this issue.

I see that the petitioners are in the gallery. Unfortunately, it is not competent for us to take contributions from the gallery, but I am delighted to recognise that they have taken the trouble to come along and hear our consideration of the petition this morning. I hope that they are pleased that the petition is staying open and that we will be taking forward the issues that it seeks to explore.