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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 May 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

We will keep the petition open and pursue it on that basis.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

That concludes our consideration of new petitions. Our next meeting will be on 13 November. We now move into private session to consider agenda items 4 and 5.

12:34 Meeting continued in private until 12:45.  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Welcome back to this meeting of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee. We continue our evidence taking in relation to PE2089, which is a petition to stop the creation of more national parks in Scotland. Following the evidence that we heard from our previous witnesses, we have been joined by Rob Lucas of the Galloway National Park Association and John Mayhew of the Scottish Campaign for National Parks. I extend a very warm welcome to both of you.

I say again that our colleague Finlay Carson is sitting in on the discussion of the petition this morning.

We will move straight to questions. We have four themes. I do not know whether you were able to watch or hear any of the evidence that we took from the first panel, but our questions will be on similar themes.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

The next continued petition, PE1993, which was lodged by David Grimm and Lucy Challoner, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to ensure that social work students have access to adequate financial support during their studies by providing bursaries to all third and fourth-year undergraduate social work students on work placements, and to reform the assessment criteria and adequately fund the bursaries for postgraduate social work students on work placements.

We last considered the petition on 20 December, when we agreed to write to the Scottish Social Services Council and the Minister for Higher and Further Education; and Minister for Veterans. The minister’s response to the committee highlights that, from this academic year,

“postgraduate students who are not eligible to receive bursary support from the Scottish Social Services Council ... will be able to apply for the postgraduate funding package administered by the Student Awards Agency Scotland (SAAS).”

The response also highlights the Scottish Social Services Council’s new model and schedule of rates for the financial support that it provides to postgraduate students. It has also worked to increase clarity for students on the funding that they will receive if they are eligible for a bursary; to reduce the complexity of assessments; and to streamline the administrative processes.

The Social Work Education Partnership commissioned a review of practice learning funding, which reported in September 2023. The minister’s written submission states that the “recommendations are being considered” by the Scottish Government. The Scottish Social Services Council’s written submission states that an action plan is

“being drafted by the SWEP Programme Office”.

The petitioners are concerned that the minister is not taking ownership of the issue. Their submission states that

“it is unfair to try and palm off decision making onto others”,

and that

“the Government will need to make funding available to enable this policy to happen”.

Do colleagues have any suggestions for action?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

You make an interesting point about whether national parks themselves are the catalyst for additional tourism. There are other factors, too; for instance, you could point to American television series such as “Outlander” and the tourism that comes from people visiting those destinations. However, when it comes to the whole idea of creating a national park, is it not implicit that such a park will, in the public mind, be somewhere that we should all go to? It might not depend on this, but, by making somewhere a national park, do we not almost self-promote the concept that this is somewhere that tourists should consider upping themselves off to?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Given that the national parks have been in place for a couple of decades now, is a review not a perfectly reasonable proposition?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

You will have heard the evidence from the previous witnesses, some of whom felt that there needs to be an independent review of the national parks, over and above any review that is being conducted by NatureScot. One of the witnesses referred to Mr Ewing’s contribution when we first considered the petition, when he spoke about people marking their own homework and about the fact that NatureScot is a proponent of what is now being advocated in relation to an additional national park, such that there is not public confidence that there has been an independently generated and proper understanding of the benefits and lessons in creating any future national park. What is your attitude to the petitioner’s calls for such an independent review to be established?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Are colleagues content to proceed on that basis?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Mr Carson, we are quite tight for time, but I can allow you a question if you can pull your thoughts together concisely.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 30 October 2024

Jackson Carlaw

Does anyone want to come in on that point?