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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Jackson Carlaw

The final new petition today is PE1864, which was lodged by Aileen Jackson on behalf of Scotland Against Spin. We have our first special guest of the new live proceedings from Parliament in our colleague Oliver Mundell MSP, who has attended for the petition.

The petition calls on the Scottish Government to increase the ability of communities to influence planning decisions for onshore wind farms by adopting English planning legislation for the determination of onshore wind farm developments; empowering local authorities to ensure that local communities are given sufficient professional help to engage in the planning process; and appointing an independent advocate to ensure that local participants are not bullied and intimidated during the public process.

In its written submission, the Scottish Government highlights that it is reviewing Scotland’s national planning policies and expects to publish a draft national planning framework 4 in the autumn of this year. It states that it consulted on the NPF4 position statement, and it will carry out extensive public consultation following its publication. The Government’s submission also notes that, in preparing NPF4, the Scottish Government is considering priority policy changes to support a spatial strategy for net zero, which includes strengthening its support for repowering and expanding existing wind farms.

The petitioners have provided two submissions. The issues raised in those submissions include the costs that are involved in challenging planning applications, including the financial costs and the time and expertise required, and the disparity between planning application fees in Scotland and England. The fee to apply for a 50MW to 100MW onshore wind farm in Scotland is less than half of the fee for the equivalent in England.

The committee has also received more than 100 additional submissions, most of which are from people living in rural communities. Many of the issues that they raise echo the points that the petitioners made in their petition and submissions. Issues raised consistently across the submissions include people and communities feeling overwhelmed by the volume of information and the planning process; the fact that the advice that is available from organisations such as Planning Aid Scotland is general and there is a lack of capacity to deliver it to all who need it; and the cumulative impact of wind farms not only on the environment but on the ability of individuals and organisations such as community councils to repeatedly respond to applications. Across the majority of submissions, there is a consensus on the need to act to avert a climate emergency. However, the submissions highlight that, in the main, it is Scotland’s rural communities that are burdened with the adverse effects of producing wind energy.

Since the publication of our meeting papers, we have received a submission from Dr Rachel Connor in support of the petition. In her submission, Dr Connor raises several of the concerns that are highlighted by the petitioner and throughout additional submissions that the committee has received.

Finlay Carson was hoping to join us today, but he has a prior commitment, as he is convener of the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee, which is meeting now. He has therefore sent a message asking that the petition be continued with further information sought. He suggests that it could be referred to the Rural Affairs, Islands and Natural Environment Committee, but I note that, as the petition relates to the planning system, the relevant subject committee in the first instance would be the Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee.

I am minded to bring in our colleague Oliver Mundell, unless anyone wishes to speak ahead of him. As nobody does, I will bring in Oliver Mundell.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Jackson Carlaw

Mr Torrance, having previously advocated that we close the petition, are you happy with that approach?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Jackson Carlaw

Does anyone else wish to comment? Mr Sweeney?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Jackson Carlaw

Does anyone else wish to comment?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Jackson Carlaw

Do colleagues agree with that proposal from David Torrance?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Jackson Carlaw

Okay—that is what we will do.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Jackson Carlaw

I wonder whether we might also write to the UK NSC just so that we can understand where it thinks it is in the process of the research that it is undertaking. It would be useful to know whether it anticipates that research coming to fruition or whether the situation is still very open ended at this point. It would be helpful to know that. It would also be useful to write to the bodies that David Torrance has suggested.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Jackson Carlaw

I am struck by the observation that there is a legal obligation to allow trained captive-bred birds of prey—which I presume are the ones to which you are referring, Bill—the freedom to express the natural behaviours of the species. That was the conundrum that I noted. I am not quite sure how that could be done within the law, as it stands. I was left confused by that position, so I am minded to write to the Scottish Government to ask it how it reconciles that right with the legislation. Do colleagues agree with that suggestion?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Jackson Carlaw

On Tess White’s point, I wonder whether there is anyone who can tell us how many falconers are operating in Scotland. It would be nice to quantify the number of people who are affected.

I am quite happy to pursue those two aspects, and to keep the petition open on that basis. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Jackson Carlaw

We would be happy to do that.