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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 8 August 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackson Carlaw

I see—okay. Are colleagues similarly minded?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackson Carlaw

We have had a couple of suggestions from Mr Choudhury and Mr Ewing. Are we content to keep the petition open and seek further clarification on the basis of what they have suggested?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackson Carlaw

The last of our continuing petitions this morning is PE2087, lodged by Paul Irvine. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to pass a law making exercising a dog in a cemetery an offence punishable by an on-the-spot fine for infringement. The petition was last considered at our meeting on 29 May 2024, when we agreed to write to COSLA, Police Scotland and the Scottish Government.

The Scottish Government’s response states that it is proposing a requirement for

“each burial authority in Scotland to prepare and maintain a management plan which will apply to all the burial grounds for which the burial authority has responsibility ... Burial authorities will not be required to record their decision on dog access within the management plan, but they could choose to set out their position in the plan if they wish. Burial regulations will not create any new rules in relation to dogs. The decision on whether to permit dogs in burial grounds will remain at the discretion of each ... burial authority based on local factors.”

Do colleagues have any suggestions on how we might proceed? I call Mr Golden, who is fresh back from Crufts.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Are you suggesting that, on this occasion, we close the petition based on the substantive responses that we have received?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackson Carlaw

If those aspects are not fulfilled.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 19 March 2025

Jackson Carlaw

That brings us to the end of the public part of the meeting. Our next meeting will be on Wednesday 2 April.

10:59 Meeting continued in private until 11:14.  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, Mr Ewing. Because of the scheduling of the petition, we have ended up considering it almost as we come around to the anniversary of the death of Sharon Duncan’s son, David Hill, on 19 March 2022. I thank colleagues and the Scottish Rugby Union for the work that they do in keeping David’s memory alive and the work that the Parliament and others do to bring attention and feeling to the issue. He is still sorely missed by many of us here in the Parliament.

On the basis of those recommendations, are we content to keep the petition open and pursue the various suggestions that have been made?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Jackson Carlaw

The next petition is PE2067, which was lodged by Sharon Duncan and calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to commission research to establish how many people aged 14 to 35 are affected by conditions that cause young sudden cardiac death, to clarify the number of people in Scotland who die annually from these conditions and to set up a pilot study to establish if voluntary screening can reduce deaths.

Is that Sharon Duncan in the public gallery? My eyesight is so faulty these days, but I believe that she is in the gallery—a very good morning to you.

We had hoped to be joined by Oliver Mundell for our consideration of this petition but, unfortunately, he is unwell and has not been able to attend the Parliament this week. He has sent his apologies.

We last considered this petition at our meeting on 20 March 2024, when we agreed to write to a number of organisations with a view to better understanding what research may be under way and to invite views on the call for a pilot study for a voluntary screening programme. Copies of all the responses that we have received are included in our papers for today’s meeting.

The response from Cardiac Risk in the Young—CRY—provides details on calculating and understanding the incidence of conditions associated with young sudden cardiac death. It suggests that there are inaccuracies in the way that the incidence is recorded by the Office for National Statistics, which has led to the UK and Scottish Governments underestimating the impact that those conditions have on families and society at large. That is clearly disturbing.

Similarly, the British Heart Foundation and Chest Heart & Stroke Scotland both highlighted the importance of research for improving understanding of the prevalence of sudden cardiac death and how best to identify the risks associated with it. Both organisations indicated support for further research, with Chest Heart & Stroke Scotland believing that, if the Scottish Government commissioned research, including a pilot study on voluntary screening, it could provide crucial insight and offer a valuable contribution to the current evidence base.

We also received a response from the Minister for Public Health and Women’s Health setting out how the Scottish Government and other UK nations engage with the work of the UK National Screening Committee. It noted that Governments cannot tell the NSC which issues it should consider or review.

In its response dated May 2024, the UK National Screening Committee states that it is not aware of any significant new work on whole population screening that would suggest a different outcome to its 2019 review. It does, however, plan to review evidence relating to population screening for sudden cardiac death within the next three years. The response also notes that the NSC’s terms of reference have been expanded to include consideration of targeted or stratified screening programmes, and although it has not yet been asked to consider targeted or stratified screening for sudden cardiac death, it can be alerted to any new published peer-reviewed evidence that might suggest a case for a new screening programme.

We have also received two submissions from the petitioner. She welcomes the responses from Cardiac Risk in the Young, Chest Heart & Stroke Scotland and the British Heart Foundation, and also draws our attention to discussions that have taken place elsewhere in the UK, including an event at the Italian embassy in London that explored the mandatory screening programme for young people who are involved in organised sport in Italy, and how that programme might be adapted for use in the UK. Ms Duncan also shared information about the meeting that she had with the then First Minister, Humza Yousaf, and the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care to discuss the possibility of commissioning or supporting research into the impact of diseases leading to sudden cardiac death in Scotland.

Quite a bit of progress has been made, but there is still work to do. Do colleagues have any suggestions for action?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Jackson Carlaw

Our next continued petition PE2086, which was lodged by William Queen and calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to acknowledge those who were injured by Covid-19 vaccines and to have the national health service offer appropriate treatment to them.

We last considered the petition on 29 May 2024, when we agreed to write to the Scottish Government to seek information on informed consent, specialist diagnostic testing and specialist treatment.

The Scottish Government’s response states that information on the potential side effects of the Covid-19 vaccine is provided with each appointment letter, which also includes links to further detailed information. The submission also highlights that staff at clinics are trained to answer any questions about side effects and that each patient must give informed consent before receiving a vaccination. That has been my personal experience.

The Scottish Government’s submission states that no specialist diagnostic testing is available for Covid-19 vaccine-related harms, but there are other diagnosis methods. For example, if a patient has a condition that is a known side effect, further tests or clinical assessment could be done in order to rule other likely causes in or out, although there might be nothing that is definitive enough to confirm the condition’s cause. The submission reiterates that an individual would be offered the same treatment as any other patient, regardless of how they contracted a condition.

The petitioner’s written submission highlights concerns that patients are not being adequately treated for the conditions that they are presenting with, which is resulting in some individuals seeking private treatment. He points to vaccine-induced myocarditis as a condition that can be difficult to diagnose. He also states that he is aware that people have been described as over-anxious when seeking support through the NHS, which is leading them to be hesitant about continuing to seek support, while others have pursued private care and received a heart injury diagnosis.

I believe that the petitioner is in the gallery—good morning and welcome. There continues to be issues of substance in this area, so it is a petition that we would want to hold open. Do members have any calls or suggestions for action?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 5 March 2025

Jackson Carlaw

We thank the petitioner for his on-going work to underpin the petition that he submitted. We will seek specific evidence on the particular points that have been identified in his most recent submission.