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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I will touch on something that I noted in the petitioners’ most recent written submission. We have talked quite a bit about commercial forestry and issues arising from that, but the submission also touched on mountain biking. I am not a mountain biker. Those days are behind me. However, as it happens, I do quite a lot of walking in the Alps, on the continent, where I have seen a fairly massive expansion of mountain biking as a pastime.

It is interesting to me that, in France, Switzerland or wherever else, an awful lot of Scottish families participate. I am aware of that because of being suddenly struck by the accents. There is a very strong Scottish thread through it. It is interesting for those of us who are walking in the Alps or wherever, going down, to see the various biking trails that have been put in place, which tend to be designed to get from the top to the bottom in the fastest possible time. They are not stopping for a picnic halfway down; they are getting to where they have to get to. Clearly, that is an emerging and growing sport, and the thrill of it is that it is not through open country but through forested country—the whole thing is in the cuts and turns of doing it.

Given that that appears to be an emerging, growing and popular sport, for which there could be an ever-increasing demand, how do you see its being accommodated? It will have to be accommodated, if it is popular. How should such a thing be accommodated within the landscape? Where is it appropriate and where would it be better not to facilitate it? Does it need to be managed in some way, rather than just produced on a whim?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, both, very much. I know that it was a very early start for you. I hope that you can see that the committee is very interested in your petition, which has opened up a number of issues that it would be worth while for us to pursue and further examine in some detail. That process began with your evidence this morning, and it will now continue with the round-table discussion. We will liaise with you as we take the petition and the discussion further forward.

I suspend the meeting briefly.

10:49 Meeting suspended.  

10:57 On resuming—  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I note that Arina Russell was nodding quite a bit to some of that. Do you want to contribute to this conversation, Ms Russell?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Out of interest, Callum, what did the council say? The council manages all the schools, so it could be one of the groups that could give everybody a reusable water bottle. Is it away to think about it?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

That is a lot of bottles.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

That is fantastic.

Sue Webber is with us, as I said earlier. Sue, would you like to contribute to our thoughts and the discussion?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Welcome back to the committee’s fourth meeting in 2022. We will resume item 1, which is consideration of continued petitions, with an evidence session with petitioners.

PE1812, which was lodged by Audrey Baird and Fiona Baker, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to deliver world-leading legislation giving Scotland’s remaining fragments of ancient, native and semi-native woodlands and woodland floors full legal protection before COP26. Of course, COP26 took place last November, so that deadline has passed, but we are still interested in the aims of the petition and the issues at its heart.

When we considered the petition previously, in February, we decided to invite the petitioners in to hear from them directly. It is great that we are able to do that again, so I give a warm welcome to Audrey Baird and Fiona Baker. We will then be hearing from a number of organisations that are interested in the issues that have been raised.

Both our petitioners are here on behalf of Help Trees Help Us. We also expect to be joined by Jackie Baillie MSP, who spoke on the petition at its first consideration last month. She is on her way, so we will welcome her in due course.

We have a number of questions and an opportunity to test some of the objectives of the petition and what you might want us to do. What would the petitioners specifically like to say to us at this stage of our consideration, by way of an introduction?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

And commercial harvesting is okay if you have permission.

10:15  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Paul—you wanted to ask Andy Leitch the same question.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 9 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Paul, are you happy with that answer?