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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 August 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Do colleagues agree to keep the petition open and to proceed on the basis that has just been discussed?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you very much, minister and Mr Howieson. Jackie Baillie, who has supported the petitioners in the development of the petition, has been listening to proceedings. Jackie, would you like to make a statement that the committee can consider along with the evidence that we have heard this morning?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you, Ms Baillie. I do not think that it would be quite right for members of the Parliament who are not members of the committee to cross-examine the minister, but, if the minister would like to say anything to the committee before we draw the session to a conclusion, we would be very pleased to hear that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

That is interesting. If the Scottish Government will not expand the remit of its inquiry or, as has been suggested, if a separate inquiry were not to take place, is it possible that some of the themes, lessons and recommendations that emerge through that inquiry in England and Wales could crystallise into actions that campaigners could pursue more directly with the Scottish Government here? In other words, is it possible that that inquiry will lead to recommendations of which Scotland should be taking note, too?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

As no other members wish to add anything, are we content to proceed as recommended by Alexander Stewart?

Members indicated agreement.

We will close the petition. We thank the petitioners for raising it with us. In closing it, we will write to the Scottish Government to get the timeline for the items that it has agreed to pursue.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Okay—thank you.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

What benefits do you think a public inquiry, the scope of which extended to those who have suffered abuse by religious organisations in Scotland, would have for the pursuit of the injustice that you feel you have suffered?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Welcome back. Our next continued petition is PE1905, which is on the response of religious organisations to allegations of child sexual abuse since 1950. The petition was lodged by Angela Rosina Cousins on behalf of UK XJWs Support and it calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to order a public inquiry into the actions taken by religious organisations in response to child sexual abuse allegations since 1950.

Today, we will take evidence from our petitioner, Angela Rosina Cousins. On behalf of the committee, I extend a very warm welcome to Angela and thank her for coming to speak to us about something that is obviously very personal to her and, I imagine, difficult to talk about. We very much appreciate that she has taken the time to come and speak to us this morning.

We know, from our previous consideration of the petition, that the Scottish Government’s view is that to extend the public inquiry would in some way undermine its ability to make progress in the short term, whereas other parts of the country are perhaps taking a different view.

We will move straight to questions. Angela, by way of helping with our understanding for our discussion, will you explain a bit about your background, what led to the petition, and the issues that you have raised in relation to child abuse in religious organisations?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

What response did you receive to your endeavours to have the situation that you were facing addressed?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 March 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am minded to accept Alexander Stewart’s suggestion that we close the petition. Do members agree with that proposal?

Members indicated agreement.