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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

That is helpful. Do colleagues have comments, questions or suggestions?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Before I bring in David Torrance, I will say that, obviously, we can make further inquiries, but one suggestion is that we try to take the issue to the chamber for a debate in order to inform colleagues more broadly about the wider issues arising from this particular aspect of the use of mesh. We might want to consider that, but is there anything that we might want to do ahead of that?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I do not know whether the petition needs to come back to us if we get that information. We could frame the response in the light of the further information that we receive.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Indeed. I would quite like to hear from the petitioner, too. I would like to adopt those suggested actions but also have a discussion with the petitioner when we have received those responses. He is an elected councillor, so it would be quite interesting to hear his view. I invite the clerk to consider whether it might be useful for us to speak to anyone else in the light of the responses that we receive.

I have had representations—I do not know whether they are hearsay, which is why I think that they are worth exploring—that, in some cases, a general decision has been taken just to go in and flatten a lot of headstones, whether they are at risk or not, as a pre-emptive measure and without reference. A lot of relatives have become quite distressed to find that such action has been taken.

It seems to me that, in the drafting of guidelines, there is currently something of an open environment whereby there is an opportunity to discuss the issues raised in the petition, to which we might make a useful contribution. I would be grateful if we could do that.

Are members content that we do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Are members content to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Does anyone have any other thoughts? I wonder whether we might, in seeking advice, try to establish whether COSLA is aware of any widespread public concern about the issue. I am not clear about how widespread any concern might be.

I thank the petitioner. We will keep the petition open and will revert when we have that information.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

PE1940, which has been lodged by Campbell Wild, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to permit Nest Protect as a valid system under the new fire and smoke alarm law, which came into force in February 2022.

In response to the petition, the Scottish Government states its view that allowing the system would be inappropriate because it does not meet the necessary British standard required under the interlinked fire alarms legislation.? The Scottish Government highlights its joint statement with COSLA, which confirms that there are no penalties for non-compliance.

We have also received a submission from an individual, Michael Clark, who has indicated his support for the petition. He shares his positive experience of using the Nest Protect system and notes its additional features, which provide further safety benefits.

Do members have any comments or suggestions? Is anyone familiar with Nest Protect?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Do members have any other thoughts?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

PE1941, which has been lodged by Councillor Andrew Stuart Wood, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to monitor and regulate actions taken by local authorities when undertaking their statutory duty of ensuring health and safety within our cemeteries.

The SPICe briefing on the petition explains that local authorities have general duties to address hazards in burial grounds but that the maintenance of headstones and other memorials is the responsibility of the owners of the burial grounds.

The Scottish Government indicates that it is unable to intervene in operational matters affecting burial grounds because that is the responsibility of the relevant burial authority. The response highlights the work of the burial regulations working group and the plans to prepare a statutory code of practice and associated guidance for burial authorities.

I have heard expressions of interest and concern in relation to the petition. Do members have any views?

10:15  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

We will keep the petition open and proceed on that basis. Specifically, we want, in order to direct consideration to the petitioner’s concerns, to know about foods with equivalent quantities of caffeine.