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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 21 October 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I worry a little when you say that it is a horribly old profession at 54 and 59; I am 63, so I do not know what that says about my prospects. You raise three very specific areas. We have some areas of questioning that we want to address, but I hope that, during the course of the evidence session, we do justice to all those issues.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am not sure that all the committee members will have had that experience specifically coming from Ibrox, but I am sure that we have all sat in a cab with the meter running.

Mr Grant, do you want to come in?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 26 October 2022

Jackson Carlaw

The petition will stay open, and we will seek to gather evidence for consideration at a later date.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am content to do all of that. Are members content?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

We will write as Mr Torrance has suggested, keep the petition open and consider it afresh when we hear from those bodies.

That concludes the public section of our meeting. We will next meet on 26 October.

We now move into private session for consideration of item 4.

10:20 Meeting continued in private until 10:27.  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I do not see anything in the briefing that we have received that would change the fact that the product is not approved. We might have asked to see the system in practice, but that would not have changed the fact that it has not been approved as meeting the standard.

I do not see that we can take this any further, so I am inclined to agree, in view of the evidence that we have received, that we must close the petition. Are members content?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Personally, I am reluctant to close the petitions without trying to drill down on that information. I accept that we need to get some sort of date. I wonder whether the clerks could verify that information from Mr Whittle in relation to Belfast. If we are asking for a timeline, it would be good to couple that with evidence that the delay in establishing a timeline is leading to a transference of the potential business that would use that route, which could have a compound effect in due course and undermine the financial viability of the region and the route. That is why we think that the delay in getting any firm timescale is unhelpful.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Okay. There is only so far that a committee can take things, but I think that it is worth pursuing, because there is a commitment to do something but no commitment as to when it will be done. We might want to try to get the latter.

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

There is certainly an opportunity to do that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 28 September 2022

Jackson Carlaw

PE1884, which has been lodged by Steve Gillan, calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to make whole plant cannabis oil available on the national health service, or provide funds, for private access for severely epileptic children and adults, where all other NHS epilepsy drugs have failed to help. We last considered the petition on 23 March, when we agreed that we would write to the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care and the Minister for Drugs Policy. We have received two responses on the petition.

The first response indicates that NHS England remains in discussions on the establishment of two clinical trials to further the evidence base for cannabis-based products for medicinal use—CBPMs—and that patients in Scotland will be eligible to take part in such trials. However, due to the commercially sensitive nature of those discussions, there are limits on what can be shared publicly, at this stage. The response also sets out the process and timescales for licensing a new medicine.

The second response states that information is not—I suppose, self-evidently—held on the number of people who access illicit cannabis for medicinal purposes. It also highlights that programmes to allow people to self-medicate with cannabis in a controlled environment would be in breach of the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971.

My recollection is that the committee was quite sympathetic to some of the evidence that we heard on the petition and on the positions that we asked the Scottish Government to clarify. We have evidence that the trials would potentially be open to Scottish patients.

Do members have any views on how we might proceed?