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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Although you are being slightly circumspect about your overall reaction to the report, would you go so far as to say that you feel that the group fulfilled your expectations and fulfilled the brief that was set for it?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Mr Kinnaird, I heard you say that a second public event was to be incorporated. Is there a definition of what constitutes a public event?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Obviously, the Government has not yet published a response, but what, in general terms, is your overall reaction to the report?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jackson Carlaw

PE1933 is entitled “Allow the Fornethy Survivors to access Scotland’s redress scheme”. The petition was lodged by Iris Tinto on behalf of the Fornethy survivors group and calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to widen access to the redress scheme in order to allow the survivors to seek redress.

Iris Tinto notes that

“Survivors need acknowledgement, closure and compensation.”

She states that, despite being

“‘in care’ of Glasgow Corporation”

the decision to exempt groups such as the Fornethy survivors group has “magnified that suffering.” The group has provided a powerful and detailed account of the range of abuse that they suffered and the outcomes associated with that in the written submission that members will have seen among their papers. In its submission to the committee, the Scottish Government states that it

“recognises that the abuse of children in all circumstances ... is wrong and harmful.”

Despite that recognition—I am thinking of a petition that we heard not long ago; herein lies a common theme—the Scottish Government states that the exclusion of people who were abused in short-term respite or holiday care is

“in keeping with the core purpose of the redress scheme”.

It states that

“eligibility for the scheme is not based on how long a child was in care ... Instead, it is based on how the child came to be in care and the type of care setting”

that they were in.

Members will recall the petition that we have been considering about the abuse inquiry and the terms of reference in relation to that. Although this is a different petition and a different set of circumstances, I was struck when reading the notes that it seems again to be the case that drafting of regulations is tight and allows groups to fall through the net, which is acknowledged but not followed by any resolution. What views do colleagues have, having read the notes?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Please could the clerks encapsulate the essence of the discussion and members’ reflections on the evidence this morning in such a way that we can offer that to the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee for its further consideration? Rhoda Grant has a final thought on the matter.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jackson Carlaw

We now move to new petitions, the first of which is PE1932, which is entitled “Ban smoking in Scotland and develop a strategy for vaping”. The petition was lodged by Doug Mutter on behalf of VPZ. It calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to impose an outright ban on smoking and to develop a transformative public health strategy for vaping.

Doug Mutter notes that

“The Pandemic has triggered an increase in smoking rates.”

He suggests that “Scotland has lost momentum” in creating a tobacco-free generation by 2034. He suggests that

“Vaping is the best way to quit smoking”

and “strongly believes” that a public health strategy for vaping will help to realise that target.

In its submission, the Scottish Government indicated that, as yet, there is little evidence on the long-term effects of vaping because of the relatively short time for which these products have been available, although evidence has been growing over the past decade. There has been some time in which to collect evidence, but it is a short time. As such, the Scottish Government is not considering an outright ban on smoking in favour of a pro-vaping policy. Do colleagues have any comments?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Before the minister comes in, I will bring in Mr Sweeney, who is interested in this theme, although I do not know whether that interest will match Mr Ewing’s passion.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am not keen on being second best.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Participatory and Deliberative Democracy

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Since members have no final thoughts or additional questions, I thank the minister and officials. We very much appreciate your contribution to the key committee that is considering these issues this morning.

10:50 Meeting suspended.  

10:52 On resuming—  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 15 June 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Mr Ewing, did you want to come back on that?