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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 1 November 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I think that that would be very sensible. The experience of the committee with regard to petitions that we have considered before has sometimes been that the veneer of a possible recourse, on examination by the committee to evidence the substance of it, has fallen short of what might have been hoped for or experienced. Interrogating the actual practice, experience, numbers and resolution of the existing complaints process would be a sensible thing for us to try to establish.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am happy to agree to that.

I thank the petitioner for bringing the petition to the committee. We take the petition very seriously, and we will write to various organisations ahead of sponsoring a round-table discussion in the Parliament in which we can explore the issues in detail. We can then write to the Scottish Government with a summary of our thinking and any conclusions that we have reached. Do members agree to that approach?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

In advance of that, we could write to various organisations to seek their views in order to help to inform the discussion that will take place. We can write to CELCIS and the Scottish Throughcare and Aftercare Forum to get their contributions. Do members want to wait until we have had that conversation before we write to the Scottish Government?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

PE1960, calling on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to formally recognise private hire cars and taxis as modes of public transport and to enshrine such recognition in law, is lodged by Edward Grice on behalf of the Scottish Private Hire Association

The SPHA tells us that private hire cars and taxis provide a valuable service and play an important role in local transport. The SPHA goes on to tell us that, despite that, they are often overlooked by planners and policymakers in comparison with other modes of transport, which has led to their being excluded from public transport stakeholder groups and has prevented meaningful engagement on decisions affecting the services they provide.

In responding to the petition, the Scottish Government highlights that there is no legal definition of public transport and that each transport mode is subject to specific legislation. In the Government’s view, that means there is no obvious legislation that could be amended to enshrine the definition in law and to set out the relationship between the different transport sectors and local and national Government.

However, the Government states that it considers the provision of taxis to be a vital part of the transport system and that it will continue to engage with industry representatives on matters such as low-emission zones and licensing.

We heard from taxi owners during a previous evidence session, and this idea flitted in and out of the conversation. Do members have any suggestions as to how we might proceed?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am happy to support that. Are colleagues willing to support those suggestions?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you. I have not been ignoring your officials, minister; I just assumed that you would bring them in if you felt that there was anything appropriate that they could add.

Today has been helpful with the issues that we have been exploring with our petitioner. Minister, would you like to say anything further in conclusion?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I understand. Mr Ewing will go next.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Are colleagues content that we proceed on the basis of the suggestions made by Mr Stewart and Mr Ewing?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Given the response from the Scottish Government and its detailed explanation of its various initiatives, I think that there is little more that we, as a committee, could do. Are colleagues content to close the petition on that basis?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I wanted to pursue that issue myself. You started by saying that you thought that the incident in Elgin was isolated to the particular example that the petition raised. I was unclear why you thought that, but you explained that, although the information is not publicly transparent, it is there, and through the information that Police Scotland has available, you have been able to satisfy yourselves that it was just an isolated example. Therefore, when you said in response to the committee that the Scottish Government is giving consideration to that, it is not that you are considering a wholly new process, because you believe that the information is there already, but that you are considering how that information that is not necessarily or demonstrably available for people could be more transparent, so that people can see that the medicines have actually been prescribed. Is that correct?